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ianmccabe3

posted on 23/5/05 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
how to make a 4+2+2 chassis

hi got rons book read it from front to rear covers, now want to start planing but not shore being a big chap if there is going to be room for me, im 6ft 3 size 12 feet is there room or should i build a 4+2+2 chassis ????????
if i go to the bigger chassis what sort of things change ie surspenion ect
also im thinking of fitting and seirra rear diff there are no drawing for the mounting ect
thanks for your help if you can point me in the right direction
ian

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TTK77

posted on 24/5/05 at 09:42 AM Reply With Quote
Here you can find drawings and some info about 4+4+2
http://mcsorley.net/locost/drawings.htm





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big_wasa

posted on 24/5/05 at 03:55 PM Reply With Quote
Mixed opinions on this one m8..

Im the same height/feet as your self and are going to use the standard chassis but use floor mounted pedals and either fiberglass seats or pads ..

Sat in a standard chassis it is very snug

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ianmccabe3

posted on 24/5/05 at 04:22 PM Reply With Quote
so it may be a good idea for go for the larger chassis
thanks
ian

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dblissett

posted on 24/5/05 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
442

i have gone 442 i like the fact there is more room in it pluss standard bucket seats fit (cheaper) i went irs for my backend if i did it again i would get a didion back end from darren at gts tuning it would save you months of head scratching
also i dont have any holes in my bonnet for air filters and the like
good luck dave

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ianmccabe3

posted on 24/5/05 at 05:14 PM Reply With Quote
hi does anyone have any drawing or plans of the diffrent back axle set ups and which one would you go for
thanks
ian

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Skyllz

posted on 17/9/05 at 10:34 PM Reply With Quote
I spent the afternoon with some wood and screws to make some mock-ups regarding size and fitment, I'm 6'4" and I cant see how I would fit in a book chassis, however I can definitly see me in a 442 chassis I'll have a few inches loose for a seat and pedal placement, not to mention i'll be able to bend my knees and get in and out properly

Sucks being tall.

Also, I wear US11 size shoes and i'll definitly have to get some good "racing shoes" t be able to drive this thing properly without braking/clutching and braking at the same time.

[Edited on 17/9/05 by Skyllz]





You wanna race that?!?!?

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kango

posted on 18/9/05 at 04:54 AM Reply With Quote
I have built a book chassis and now that I am getting to the fitting of seat and pedals I have the same problem getting in and out and having the steering very high to miss my knees.
Next one will be a 442.
The problem is I compared the drawings and the +4 is clearly 4 inches wider in the nose, but the 442 is only one inch wide that standard.
Any explanation?

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omega 24 v6

posted on 18/9/05 at 09:45 AM Reply With Quote
I've gone 442 as well and if you look in the running gear section you'll see that I've just started and at the moment I am headscratching about the front suspension brackets as the tube arrangements run at different angles. I'm going to make new brackets to bring the geometry out to the std book dimensions and use my own made bones. I'm a fat lad and need the extra room and as said in an earlier post hopefully there will be a choice of more, and more reasonably priced seats.
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Peteff

posted on 18/9/05 at 10:04 AM Reply With Quote
Instead of altering the front you could extend the engine bay side rails till they reach the width you want then shorten the parallell rails at the cockpit sides to compensate. It will give you the extra you need where the seats fit. You could use a standard nosecone but you would need to make a scuttle.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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scotty g

posted on 18/9/05 at 12:02 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Ian, i'm building a +4 car and using the de-dion rear end from GTS. They also have all the grp bodywork for the larger dimensions.
Give Darren a call, he really knows his stuff. Cheers.

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Volvorsport

posted on 18/9/05 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
this is what mine looks like , its 442 , but with a modified front .







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Hugh Paterson

posted on 18/9/05 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
I like the pushrods on the front end any reason why you didnt put the coilovers vertical? Just curious
Shug

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Volvorsport

posted on 18/9/05 at 10:23 PM Reply With Quote
Height !!

and i still get get very good wheel /damper rates even with that setup.

basically most of the wheel travel that you would need ends at the bump stop .





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Hugh Paterson

posted on 18/9/05 at 10:29 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers, Im still toying between a top rocker or pushrods on the front, which is why I asked
Shug

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marc n

posted on 21/9/05 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

this is what mine looks like , its 442 , but with a modified front .



looks familiar although with a falling rate by the look of things

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Volvorsport

posted on 21/9/05 at 06:10 PM Reply With Quote
looks would be decieving then !!

its pretty much 1:1 .

and its pretty simple to change , you should know that!





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marc n

posted on 21/9/05 at 06:31 PM Reply With Quote
was actually meaning the incline of your shock
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Volvorsport

posted on 21/9/05 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
shock angle changes a nad , maybe a degree , the rocker actually moves the damper staright up and down , and if i need to fine tune it , ill make some new rockers , for now its miles better than having them stuck outboard !





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Volvorsport

posted on 21/9/05 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
im more concerned nobody has commented on the choice of upright !!!





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marc n

posted on 22/9/05 at 07:30 AM Reply With Quote
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im more concerned nobody has commented on the choice of upright !!!



why what is it you cant see anything apart from the adapter pin in the picture ?

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Volvorsport

posted on 22/9/05 at 07:57 AM Reply With Quote
its a cut down volvo strut !! , nothing unusual , i just thought the 'crowd' might have picked up on that , they normally do , like picking out that youve got outdated carpet or somert .

Anyway , need to contact that raceleda man to see if he can make some volvo stubs to alloy uprights .





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