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omega 24 v6

posted on 19/2/06 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
Acuaracy

Having made the tie rods and fitted them and the live axle to my chassis I now have 2 questions.
1 The lenght from the half shaft centre to the front bottom ball joint centre differs by 4.5 mm is this a great problem or not? I do have a fix in mind if it is.
2 There does not seem to be very much movement in the trailng arms to allow for body roll. I can understand why, but wondered if it puts quite a large torsional load on the welding of the eye tubes.
I know that if i'd used rod ends none of this would be a problem so don't start on me

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zilspeed

posted on 19/2/06 at 11:21 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by omega 24 v6
Having made the tie rods and fitted them and the live axle to my chassis I now have 2 questions.
1 The lenght from the half shaft centre to the front bottom ball joint centre differs by 4.5 mm is this a great problem or not? I do have a fix in mind if it is.
2 There does not seem to be very much movement in the trailng arms to allow for body roll. I can understand why, but wondered if it puts quite a large torsional load on the welding of the eye tubes.
I know that if i'd used rod ends none of this would be a problem so don't start on me


If you lean on the rear corner of a completed se7en type car - as in full body weight (whatever that may be) you will compress the suspension by maybe an inch at best. So, how much rotation do you think that is putting into the trailing arm ends ?

The square root of diddly squat - that's how much.

Remember - you will have something like 200lb/in springs on the back mounted verticvally, so it really isn't an issue.

Anyway - my heart rate is now down under the 200 beats/min level - I'm away out the back again to continue this garage base.






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Mark Allanson

posted on 19/2/06 at 11:57 AM Reply With Quote
Your first question I think is basically the wheelbase? If it is, 7mm is generally accepted as being within tollerance in the accident repair business. You may well find that your 4.5mm will disappear when you get the car on the road, all those bushes need to settle in etc





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Peteff

posted on 19/2/06 at 12:55 PM Reply With Quote
What are you measuring it with, a Stanley tape? My mate found all sorts of differences when I was building mine and was concerned I had a 3mm difference from side to side on some components but when the tape was held at both ends and pulled tight it was less. 3mm didn't bother me as my old Mini had one front wheel 3/4" further back than the other and still drove straight





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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omega 24 v6

posted on 19/2/06 at 01:04 PM Reply With Quote
OK cheers everyone I'll away back out and crack on with some more work.
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britishtrident

posted on 19/2/06 at 01:07 PM Reply With Quote
Small errors--- sometimes they cancel out sometimes they stack up against you --- 4.5 mm isn't bad but you could try swapping wishbones and/or suspension links left to right to see if it reduces it any.
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caber

posted on 19/2/06 at 09:28 PM Reply With Quote
anyone remember the Renault 16? it had full width torsion bars at the back, one in front of the other result a difference in wheelbase side to side of 2 and a bit inches. I think they used the same layout in some other cars possibly including the Renault 12 that is still being built in Romania as the Dacia!

Our family Renault 16TS managed 108 miles an hour fully loaded with 4 up along the Mulsane straight in 1969 when it was still an open public road! It also managed 100 miles an hour indicated in the last week I drove it in the early 80s racing a porsche 924 who bottled it! It died of rust and knackered half shafts, about the 8th set in 14 years!

Caber

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gazza285

posted on 19/2/06 at 09:43 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Peteff
My old Mini had one front wheel 3/4" further back than the other and still drove straight


Must have been the only Mini that did drive straight, all of the ones I see scuttle down the road. I'd still have another though.





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Mark Allanson

posted on 19/2/06 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
That was usually due to an amateur replacement of the rear subframe!





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