stuleah
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 08:03 AM |
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typhoon valdris (xbow inspired car)
Here is a finished piture of my Valdris
will post some pics later.
just doing a few mods for IVA and then hopefully will have it on the road for newark.
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Doug68
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 08:13 AM |
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You work far too fast for my liking, didn't anyone tell you you're supposed to drag this out over years and years?
Well done BTW looks magic! 
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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eddie99
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 08:18 AM |
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Does look good, was nice to see it and meet you at Stoneleigh. Good luck with your IVA and hope to see it again on the road at Newark 
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 10:39 AM |
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nice work, good to see something that isn't a 7 alike for a change. good luck with the IVA
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 11:21 AM |
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but......
Does the rear end still look a little unfinished? I think i read in one of the mags, there was still work to do there...
[Edited on 10/5/10 by Dangle_kt]
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russbost
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 12:40 PM |
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Hi Stuart - nice to meet you at the show, did you get anyone wanting to slap a deposit in your hand there & then???
The Valdris's reception does seem a little better accepted here than on Pistonheads (just been reading a thread on there re Stoneleigh which
you're getting plenty of advertising from - unfortunately not all good!!! )
Al the best with the project, Russ
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tomprescott
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 02:53 PM |
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Looks really good, reminds me of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbfiG-oOUTs
A bird in the hand....
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stuleah
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 05:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tomprescott
Looks really good, reminds me of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbfiG-oOUTs
thats a cool lawnmower i wander if i can colour code it to match?
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stuleah
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 05:59 PM |
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Hi Russ nice to meet you too.
We had a hell of alot of interest of which most of them are waiting til it is IVAd.
1 person has been in touch twice since and plans on coming down from scotland soon to have another sit in it with the pedalbox further forward (hes
over 6ft and im only 5ft6).
Just had a look on pistonheads, each to there own. big thanks to the people sticking up for the car.
Like we said at the show its a marmite car, if everyone loved it then i would have done something that no other manufacturer in the world could
do!!
Hope the show was productive for you.
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stuleah
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:23 PM |
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"Does the rear end still look a little unfinished? I think i read in one of the mags, there was still work to do there..."
Dont know how you saw the rear before but this is how it looks now.....
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stuleah
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:34 PM |
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front view
side view
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 12/5/10 at 12:19 AM |
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I dont know why your design is taking such flack.....one only has to look at some of the kitcars out there that are really ugly.
Kamala.....that firefly thing ,magenta, a dutton ect
One thing is they may be ugly a sin but their owners love them for being different..... Very differant.
So before anyone criticizes your work....im bloody sure they couldnt do better.
The thing that always puzzeled me was when a really nice car like steve turners LMP came along the buggers didnt buy it.....
But the same punters would buy a banham thing!????
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kb58
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| posted on 12/5/10 at 01:10 AM |
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If someone says you designed an ugly car, ask them to park the car they designed next to yours to confirm it...
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Alan B
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| posted on 12/5/10 at 02:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kb58
If someone says you designed an ugly car, ask them to park the car they designed next to yours to confirm it...
Excellent response. Everyone has and is entitled to opinions. Respect for those opinions though has to be earned by delivering the goods. In other
words put up or shut up.
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Gakes
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| posted on 12/5/10 at 03:04 PM |
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I second these comments and applaud your efforts. Well done!!!
90% of the "loud mouths" out there don't even get half as far with simple 7's; the other 10% of them need to make others feel
smaller because of their tiny "winkies".
My advice is to take in all the criticism and use it to your benefit....you are miles ahead of the pack
 
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 12/5/10 at 03:08 PM |
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I really like it!
playing devils advocate, you dont have to be brad pitt to know that gordon brown ain't a looker though
Craig
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kb58
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| posted on 12/5/10 at 05:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
I really like it!
playing devils advocate, you dont have to be brad pitt to know that gordon brown ain't a looker though
Yes, usually the phrase is, "That's really ugly, I would have...." The key term is "would have", meaning that they
haven't. It's easy to criticize, but much harder to actual produce something tangible.
Oh, and many people think the Mini's ugly, but that doesn't bother you, as well it shouldn't. 
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And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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stuleah
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| posted on 12/5/10 at 07:25 PM |
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Thanks for all the replies. I personally have no problem with people saying they dont like it, there are lots of cars out there i dont like, but it is
annoying when people get personal.
I just put it down to jealousy and let them get on with it.
2 customers now waiting for IVA to go through means to me that it isnt that bad.
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cheapracer
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| posted on 19/5/10 at 10:07 AM |
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I think it goes like this;
You build a car for yourself I have nothing but admiration for you especially if it actually gets to be finished which puts you on top of 99% of
people who start projects - thumbs up.
However if you build a car which you are going to sell retail then you must stand open for all that comes your way and if your sensitive you will
bleed.
I showed a new radical design to a group of people recently and they all said awesome, blah blah except for one guy who said he hated it, POS. Asked
him why, changed things a bit and came up with something that everyone agreed was even better.
It's coming....
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Tipster69
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| posted on 19/5/10 at 10:31 AM |
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Hi,
We (me and my son) saw it at Stoneleigh and thought it looked awesome. Each to there own I suppose, but I don't think anyone can deny it grabs
your attention.
GOOD LUCK with it.
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stuleah
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| posted on 19/5/10 at 06:58 PM |
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quote "Asked him why, changed things a bit and came up with something that everyone agreed was even better.
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been there done that but there will always be someone else that will come along and then you will have to change something else and so on and so
on.........
I'm happy with it now and have now got 4 people waiting for after the IVA which i dont think is bad considering its only been to stoneleigh.
Just wait and see if i get deposits afterwards.
Thanks for you comments guys.
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andygtt
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| posted on 21/5/10 at 04:15 PM |
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You have to ask your target market, not random people who are mearly interested in your car.... unfortunatelly most people you speak to are going to
be the latter.
I saw your car at stoneleigh and really liked it, I was struck by how much it looked like the KTM but I actually like the KTM... I noted areas were I
would do things differently but could see why you had gone most of the routes.... However Im definatelly not in the market, so basically my opinion is
meaningless
What is meaningful is that I congratulate you on actually building the car... as many have said its easy to talk the talk but much harder to walk the
walk.
Andy
please redefine your limits.
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kb58
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| posted on 22/5/10 at 12:26 AM |
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What I've found is that building a car and selling a kitcar is two VERY different things...
Human nature being what it is makes market research difficult. For example, if I set up a booth at a kit car show and ask people if they like my
prototype car - many will. If I ask, would they buy one - many will. So I take my research results home and see that 42% of the responses said
they'd buy one, which is, say, 420 people.
With dollar signs in my head, I quickly do the math and find that's around $250,000, and I get very excited... blinded even.
So I rent a place and start building cars, getting serious about surely becoming a millionaire very soon. Eventually I'm "in
production", and take the first article to the same kitcar show the next year. I set up a both right in the same place, along with my production
car, which looks even better, and wait.
And wait. There's lots of interest, maybe as much as last time, but something's different. People ask lots of questions, but 42% are not
putting down even a deposit. They have many excuses about this and that, all why they can't afford it "this year."
Yes, I book an order - singular. One order out of 1000 people. What happened? Human nature.
If someone asks you if you want a Ferrari, what would you say? If someone asks if you'd like to buy a Ferrari (yes or no?) Odds are, lots of
people would say yes. Now, out of those, how many people actually have the bank account to buy said car? How many people have the space for said car?
Somewhere around 0.1%.
Human nature guarantees that what people want is not the same thing as what people can and will buy. Worst of all is being in the kitcar market,
where, face it, customers are broke. Trying to sell an expensive product to people with no money is like selling ice-cubes to Eskimos, or sand to
Arabs.
Best of luck to you, but the kitcar industry is littered with the remains of many a dream, almost always due to having too much raw enthusiasm and not
enough hard-nosed business sense. Be sure to be harshly objective and balanced in your research, else you may find yourself in the same situation:
lots of money in the business, yet with the list of "absolutely for sure I'd buy one" buyers seemingly having evaporated
overnight.
[Edited on 5/23/10 by kb58]
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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stuleah
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| posted on 22/5/10 at 02:16 PM |
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Thanks again for your input guys i know exactly where your coming from. Hopefully i will sell some once the iva is done but until i have deposits in
my hand i wont be holding my breath.
Iam doing this aswell as my normal bodyshop work so it is not done as my sole business otherwise i would be stacking shelves by now.
Anyway i will keep you all posted on how its doing.
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interestedparty
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| posted on 1/2/11 at 09:18 PM |
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So what's happened to the Valdris then Stuleah? Website saying no longer available?
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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