s.g
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| posted on 13/8/11 at 08:30 AM |
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Noobie Here
Hi to everyone this is my first post here so please be nice and don't shoot me down too soon.
I have accuired the book ron champion 2nd edition and was wondering is this the same design as the haynes roadster that i keep reading about? sorry if
the question seems dumb but i just wanted to clarify first.
Hopefully i will starting my project in the next couple of weeks right from the begining which i will keep a regular update on here.
thanks
scott
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 13/8/11 at 08:46 AM |
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No they are Different. The Haynes has independent rear Suspension. Sierra track and about 2 inch wider in the body.
Where as Ron's is escort track and solid rear axle.
There a few other differences but that's the main ones
[Edited on 13/8/11 by Ben_Copeland]
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RichardK
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| posted on 13/8/11 at 08:47 AM |
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No its different design mate.
Welcome to the madhouse mate.
Cheers
Rich
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myke pocock
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| posted on 13/8/11 at 08:47 AM |
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Major difference is the back end of the Haynes uses a Sierra diff and drive shafts as opposed to the solid axle of Rons original.
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wilkingj
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| posted on 13/8/11 at 09:19 AM |
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Welcome to the Madhouse.. Fun and games on here, along with a mahoosive amount of experience just lying about and waiting to be picked up 
Personally if I was starting afresh right now, I would do the Haynes Roadster. Its more up to date, and useds a Sierra as the donor.
The Champion book is equally as good, but uses a Mk1 or Mk2 escort donor, and Cortina Front hubs, all of which are getting scarcer, and hence somtimes
more expensive.
Also the Roadster book has a less errors in it. (There is also an active forum on the net)
ALso you can buy the Roadster chassis as a flat pack already laser cut.. will save you time and also give you an accurate chassis to work with.
Just my 2d's wort.
Have fun and post plenty of pictures... we like pictures..
Cheers
EDIT:
It might be worth having a look at this (Thread on Locostbuilders). I think it uses a MX5 as a donor. (Easily sell off the unused MX5 bits on Ebay)
Linky - Click here
[Edited on 13/8/2011 by wilkingj]
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s.g
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| posted on 13/8/11 at 03:34 PM |
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Wow thanks for the quick reply's and welcomes,
Looks like i will be going down the Haynes route then which hopefully will be easier to source parts etc.
Been looking at the redy cut flat pack frames for sale and been looking through a good few posts and noticed Handyandy off here does them so i will be
giving him a shout and see how much he charges etc.
Also cheers wilkingj for the link i will look into that as i still haven't decided what donor car to use yet and am guessing there are alot more
mx5's than sierras about these days.
thanks again
scott
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 5/9/11 at 11:17 AM |
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Another newbie
Im in the same boat as S.G. - I'm keen to start planning a 7 type build but very unclear on where to start and wanting to make sure i
don't just end up in a blind alley. This is the first time ive posted here so appologies if i'm posting this in the wrong place.
I was impressed with the Ron Champion book but felt i'd need to go with something with a more recent donor for reasons or parts availability so
i guess this points me in the direction of the 'Haynes' car. Where is the best place to start on this - is there another book for this
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Can anyone tell me offhand if the ladder framed cars (Locust etc) are anywhere near as good as the space framed Locosts ? They seem to have their
following but do they handle ?
What is the general feeling about starting with a kit rather than a chassis ? Are most of the kits just a more expensive way of getting to the same
point, charging for fabricating parts that could just as easilly be used from a donor car etc. Ive read a few vaguely negative comments about
certain kits on here but theres not enough information in the posts to tell whether it's an objective or subjective view.
Quite a bit of the information thats about seems confusing with dead web links etc. Can anyone reccommend a good starting point for practical advice
please .
[Edited on 5/9/11 by Not Anumber]
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adithorp
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| posted on 5/9/11 at 11:36 AM |
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Welcome to the mad-house.
The Haynes is more relevant now as Escort donors got thin on the ground. The Sierra is getting that way as well pretty rapidly. There's a
growing number of kits based on newer donors (MX5's and BMW 3series).
I'm pretty sure you'll find it difficult to find recommendations for the Locust, etc, over the space-framed alternatives and it's
probably an ally best avoided.
If you want a car to drive you'll get there quicker with a kit and there's plenty to choose from. Most (all) of them are pretty small
operations and service can be slow sometimes.; If you expect the phone to be answered instantly or parts to arrive next day you'll be
dissapointed. Generally they do thier best though, despite the odd disgruntled customer. If you really want to experiance the build then the ultimate
is to start from scratch but it'll generally take longer. The other alternative is to buy an old already built and registered kit, then strip it
down and rebuild to you preferance. That's usually cheaper and avoids the need for IVA and registration proceces.
Good starting point for advice? Well you've found the best place 
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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kj
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| posted on 5/9/11 at 01:48 PM |
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If you check out saturn sports cars web iste they have a down load section for the mazda back end and looking at the post about them taking ocer the
single seater project and doing a mazda book roadster.
Think about it, think about it again and then do it.
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