JohnFol
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| posted on 15/12/03 at 02:46 PM |
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Disposing of gas cylinders
So, we've all made the mistake of using the cylinders from Halfords before renting the big ones .. Question is, what do you do with them when
they are empty?
My local tip refused them, and the local Halfords only accept old batteries. So what can I do?
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 15/12/03 at 03:18 PM |
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Save em all up for next 5th November, put them in the base of the bonfire
Fun for all the family!!!
Seriously, with the new EPA laws, Halfords have a Duty of Care to either dispose of them for you or tell you where they can be dumped - as they
supplied them initially
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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JoelP
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| posted on 15/12/03 at 03:29 PM |
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i just put mine in the wheelie bin. its empty so why not?
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Staple balls
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| posted on 15/12/03 at 03:38 PM |
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i do belive, empty or not, they'll still contain some gas, and even if there's air in them, they could explode in a fire
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JohnFol
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| posted on 15/12/03 at 03:41 PM |
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In fact, the bottel states "please dispose of properly" . . whatever that means
FYI I called Halfords customer care line. They got back to me within minutes and suggested if I had problems I could contact SIP, the manufacturers to
see if there is a local drop off point.
worth a try
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andyps
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| posted on 15/12/03 at 09:46 PM |
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A friend of mine refilled one (unofficially) for me once where he worked - then changed jobs so couldn't do it again. He didn't manage to
completely refill it but it lasted fairly well.
Now I put them in the bin - batteries for torches etc. also say to dispose of properly, again what does that mean.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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craig1410
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| posted on 15/12/03 at 10:14 PM |
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I just drop mine in the bin too. After all, we dispose of aerosol cans that way, some of which contain much more dangerous gases than Argon or CO2.
Cheers,
Craig.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 12:05 AM |
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argon co2 are not explosive gases!
just shove it in the bin
atb
steve
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JohnFol
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 09:42 AM |
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The gasses are not explosive, but a sealed container that gets heated may . ..
FYI I tried the manufacturer who just said "drill a hole in them and take them to a scrap yard".
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JoelP
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 09:46 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JohnFol
FYI I tried the manufacturer who just said "drill a hole in them and take them to a scrap yard".
bloody loonatics? how the hell can you recommend to joe public that they should drill a hole in a previously pressurised container?! thats asking to
get sued, or prosecuted by the HSE.
there is, IMHO, much more chance of people getting killed this way then there is of it miraculously heating itself up and exploding! And 99.9% of the
time the only place it will get heated is in a rubbish furnace, which will take a little popping inside it quite well...
[/rant]
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craig1410
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 12:26 PM |
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In my experience the formula:
HSE <> Common Sense
applies here as is often the case. Some of these guys just make up daft rules based upon a single freak accident 20 years ago which all of us are then
asked to adhere to every day despite the fact that you are 100000000 times more likely to be killed crossing the road.
Don't get me started....
Cheers,
Craig.
ps. Apologies to decent HSE inspectors out there, I know there are many of you who do actually posess common sense and apply it well ! I know one who
once climbed inside a cardboard compacter to clear a blockage because it was too dangerous for anyone else to do it... He was less than pleased when
someone locked him in 
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 12:46 PM |
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local council refuse department can advise on where to get rid of cylinders
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Stu16v
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 06:24 PM |
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Ding what Mark Allanson said.
Halfords have a legal duty to dispose of any such waste (even though they *may* incur a charge for doing so if they knew their resposibilties). So put
'em in a bag, and drop 'em off next time you are in the area-oh yeah, and take any waste oil in while you are there. That'll please
'em....
Dont just build it.....make it!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 06:46 PM |
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might explode....
hmm
so
never put batteries in the weelie bin?
never put an old aerosol in the wheelie bin?
never poured any inconvenient substance like petrol or white spirit in the wheelie bin?
old tampons or condoms (obvious health hazards)
dead budgie?
old socks?
broken glass?
jordan calendar?
open tin cans with sharp edges?
its a bin - stuff gets thrown in it. Never ever heard of the local incinerator going nuclear cos someone in my town of 10,000 houses, just once threw
summat in the bin they shouldnt have....
atb
steve
[Edited on 16/12/03 by stephen_gusterson]
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MikeR
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 08:35 PM |
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what if you if you happen to have a BOC oxygen cylinder you shouldn't ?
(hypothetically speaking of course!)
any suggestions on how you should hypothetically dispose of it?
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Peteff
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 08:43 PM |
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Stand it near the gate and it will disappear on its own. Thinners makes the bin smell nicer and the local council depot has an oil and battery
repository round here. You can go to the depot and get a good telly or pushbike as well as garden furniture and all manner of ornaments. It's a
real challenge to throw something away and come back empty handed.
yours, Pete.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Stu16v
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 10:59 PM |
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quote:
It's a real challenge to throw something away and come back empty handed.
Hehehe. Especially when it could be 'Locost-able'.....
Cor. Locostable. I think I have just invented a new word
Dont just build it.....make it!
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MikeR
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| posted on 17/12/03 at 02:28 PM |
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hmmm, the last time i went i got (well paid the bloke a couple of quid for) some ramps. Really good, heavy duty ones. 1 problem, the tin top has a
front (factory fitted) skirt so low that it means i can't use them 
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Rorty
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| posted on 18/12/03 at 02:34 AM |
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Before I left Norn Iron, I used to get hold of gas cylinders from a bloke who salvaged them from Belfast Lough.
The lazy welders at Harland and Wolf's would throw the empty cylinders over the side of the ships rather than get them back onto the dock.
I would then fill them on someone else's account.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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JohnFol
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| posted on 23/12/03 at 05:17 PM |
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FYI Went back to Halfords and told them what their head office had said.
Manager refused to believe me so dumped all 20 of them (plus some odd scraps of metal) in their skip!
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 24/12/03 at 09:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
You can go to the depot and get a good telly or pushbike as well as garden furniture and all manner of ornaments. It's a real challenge to throw
something away and come back empty handed.
yours, Pete.
PIKEY..... 
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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JohnFol
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| posted on 24/12/03 at 09:49 AM |
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I will of course take that as a compliment as under our belov'd government this could be seen as inciting racial hatred, thus condeming this ng
to be closed down as it has an obligation to moderate such illegal activities. . . . And we didn't even get the pleasure of burning a caravan!
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paulf
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| posted on 29/12/03 at 12:44 PM |
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The bigest challenge at my local tip is to throw away anything that they cannot sell.
If I take a bag of rubbish in that contains a mixture of wood, metal, tree clippings and cardboard for instance they insist on it being divided into
seperate bins.
Of course i always throw it in the unrecyleable waste skip and get threatened with being banned from the tip.The game is now to disguise everything to
look like household rubbish.
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
It's a real challenge to throw something away and come back empty handed.
yours, Pete.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 29/12/03 at 07:34 PM |
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Ah Paul.
you dont use the one in kettering do you?
its a real arse pain!
everything needs to be sorted to nth degree.
I was next to soemone there that was being told they were 'dumping too much'.
this explains why so much shyte is dumped in the lanes of northants.
come the revolution, local councillors will be strung up from the speed cams.....
atb
steve
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paulf
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| posted on 29/12/03 at 10:59 PM |
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Hi Steve
yes it is the kettering tip as you say a real pain in the arse. They took my reg number last time, as i threw a bin bag full of wood in the wood skip
but did not remove it from the bag, no bags allowed said the jobsworth at the tip.
Next plan of attack is to report them to the trading standards for selling electrical goods to the public, as this is not allowed, also maybe the HSE
would like to know about the slippery ramps up to the skips. All ready for the next time i get abuse from them.
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
Ah Paul.
you dont use the one in kettering do you?
its a real arse pain!
everything needs to be sorted to nth degree.
I was next to soemone there that was being told they were 'dumping too much'.
this explains why so much shyte is dumped in the lanes of northants.
come the revolution, local councillors will be strung up from the speed cams.....
atb
steve
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