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Gaz 1977

posted on 15/12/08 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Si

They are no longer taped in place, they fell off, and i stood on them.

Balls.

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DIY Si

posted on 15/12/08 at 06:38 PM Reply With Quote
Ooops.
Is it much work to make new ones?





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Gaz 1977

posted on 19/12/08 at 05:24 PM Reply With Quote
it's the last of my worries, i will do them between the starter and the main on the 25th
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dhutch

posted on 2/1/09 at 07:51 PM Reply With Quote
First time i have seen this thread.
- Looks like fantasic work work, very interesting. If the real thing can look like the model than spot on.

The soft top looks spot on, although the hard top is what made me read the thread.


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Gaz 1977

posted on 3/1/09 at 01:44 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Daniel,

I can assure you the hard top has not been dropped. I just thought i would get the open model finished first. Rescued attachment aeon-01.jpg
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serieslandy

posted on 10/1/09 at 10:20 PM Reply With Quote
After looking through the whole thread last week, its nice to see it in the ckc 2009 guide.
Well done GAZ, I can't wait to see the real thing.

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DIY Si

posted on 11/1/09 at 04:02 PM Reply With Quote
Now that the open top model is done, are Aeon going to get a full shell made up soon? Or are they going to wait for the hard top and so on first?





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DIY Si

posted on 29/1/09 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
Any news GAZ?





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Gaz 1977

posted on 1/2/09 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
hi

i will know more in the next few weeks

Gaz

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jlparsons

posted on 6/2/09 at 11:38 AM Reply With Quote
That looks seriously classy as a drop top mate. Begging for an exotic V8 and a hefty price tag!
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JamJah

posted on 4/3/09 at 09:52 AM Reply With Quote
Whats the latest?





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907

posted on 7/3/09 at 04:51 PM Reply With Quote
Hi All.


I picked up the chassis from Aeon a week ago with a view to making a few bits & bobs for it.

Last weekend Gaz & I did the exhaust manifold and today we put the cans on. Some midnight oil was also burned during the week.

I've opted for an expansion box with a re-packable can behind it. Both will be inside the sill.
The end bend still needs a short extension added with an SVA end. I will sort that when the body is on.


I intend to make the fuel tank next, with some sort of crash bar frame around it, then it's back to Keith at Aeon before the Detling show.

It's all go innit.

Cheers
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Gaz 1977

posted on 8/3/09 at 09:16 AM Reply With Quote
exhausted

pics of the exhaust system Rescued attachment exhaust for adam.JPG
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Gaz 1977

posted on 8/3/09 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
and another Rescued attachment exhaust for adam 2.JPG
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Gaz 1977

posted on 8/3/09 at 09:26 AM Reply With Quote
just to prove that a full size car seat fits in the chassis,

the Seat in the pic is a retrimmed mk1 mx5 seat with speekers in the head rest.

Thanks

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Hellfire

posted on 13/3/09 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
It really is looking mint...

I reckon I would actually buy that - if I had the money

KUTGW

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cloudy

posted on 13/3/09 at 04:35 PM Reply With Quote
It may just be the photo's - but it looks like a polybush is being used at 45 degrees on the front lower wishbone inner? Is this the case?

[Edited on 13/3/09 by cloudy]





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RazMan

posted on 13/3/09 at 05:20 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
It may just be the photo's - but it looks like a polybush is being used at 45 degrees on the front lower wishbone inner? Is this the case?



Correct, and there are very good reasons for it too. iirc the wishbone exerts less stress on the bush over its normal range of movement and the whole chassis is much stronger and flexes less as a result. It seems unorthodox but it definitely works.

[Edited on 13-3-09 by RazMan]





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cloudy

posted on 13/3/09 at 07:19 PM Reply With Quote
The arc of motion won't be up and down viewed from the side it will scribe a curve - The top wishbones as shown dictate a straight path vertically. It will be flexing the bush side to side, perhaps either prematurely failing the bush or worse breaking a weld - Easy solution would be to replace it with a rosejoint....

James

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907

posted on 21/3/09 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
Hi All

The bush is definitely rubber, and as Raz says, it works.
He should know as his car has the same set up and he's done a few miles in that.


The fuel tank is now fitted (see pic) with the protective bars around it.
Back to Aeon now for some more work.

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eddie99

posted on 18/4/09 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
Was nice to see the car and yourself at detling. Look forward to some more progress and seeing the kit on the market...

Ed

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JamJah

posted on 18/4/09 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
Any full size body shells on show? Or expected release date?
I might have a morgage by the time this is in full production, and thats words i didnt think would come from my mouth 27 months ago!!





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cymtriks

posted on 1/5/09 at 08:58 AM Reply With Quote
Lovely bodywork.

You might want to rethink some details on the chassis though.

As has already been pointed out the front bushes aren't aligned with the suspension movement. You may be getting away with that on a quich blast around the block but after 1000s of miles and a few sleeping policmen it may give up.

The top front wishbone seems to transfer its loads into a narrowly spaced pair of latteral tubes via a couple of extensions (little welded on tubes). These place the the bolts in single shear and place all sorts of bending into the pair of lateral tubes. A quick look at most chassis shows a completly different design. Look at the Locost, Fury, Caterhm etc.

The sills contribute little to chassis stiffness and could be simplified, why use more tubes than you need in an area that just holds up the floor side? You could just keep the top tube on the sills and bend the floor up to meet it.

The central backbone has no triangulation on the top or (as far as I can make out) on the bottom. That makes the stiffness very low. Consider turning the tunnel into a fully (i.e. braced on the top, bottom and sides) braced box. This will really stiffen up the frame.

Have you considered getting it FEA'ed?

Have you made a small model and twisted it in your hands to see where the deflection is comming from and which tube gives up first?

It's such a pretty body, it deserves a great chassis. With a bit of thought you could certainly improve what you already have.

Great project by the way, I wish I had the space to do the same!

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Gaz 1977

posted on 3/5/09 at 03:07 PM Reply With Quote
Hi there,

The front wishbone design was suggested by MIRA over the traditional design as they say its alot stronger, it has been on the GT3 (a car known for its handling) for many years with out a single problem. With the shocks fitted now the front end moves freely, it even goes up and down.

I have built scale models of the epona chassis and also a standard locost one. I can honistly say its alot stiffer then a locost chassis. (both models were made from the same material, same glues etc.

Just had a look at your photo archive..

It's such a pretty chassis, it deserves a great body. With a bit of thought you could certainly improve what you already have.

Thanks

gaz

[Edited on 3/5/09 by Gaz 1977]

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RazMan

posted on 3/5/09 at 03:56 PM Reply With Quote
Just a confirmation about the wishbone / bush orientation.

Over the NORMAL movement of the wishbone (ie with shocks and springs fitted) the misalignment is honestly negligible, probably less than a tenth of a degree and well within the tolerance of a rubber bush. The whole setup is tremendously strong and in 20,000 miles on my own car I can testify that the only thing to wear was a cheap rose joint, which after replacement has since done 12,000 miles without any perceptable wear.

In short, it LOOKS unconventional but has been thoroughly stress tested by MIRA - I seem to recall that there is a video floating around to demonstrate this.





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