big_wasa
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 10:07 AM |
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Ouch last time I looked you could not give them away.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 10:09 AM |
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is that the Ron Champion book ?, i have a 2nd edition with no dirty fingerprints on, u2u me if you want it with a decent offer.
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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andybird
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 10:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
is that the Ron Champion book ?, i have a 2nd edition with no dirty fingerprints on, u2u me if you want it with a decent offer.
No the Chris gibbs one
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big_wasa
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 10:14 AM |
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I did buy a copy and thumbed through it once, I can't remember if I sold it in one of my clear outs. I will have a look when I get home.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 11:17 AM |
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the Chris one is much better, car too. The only thing missing is Ron's bull$hit story of how he supposedly spent £250 building his.
These days it's called misleading clickbait...
There's someone on Amazon wanting -
Add to Basket
£136.76+ £2.80 Delivery
WTF!
How about just going here and getting the plans, you don't really need a book to tell you how to build one...
Online plans
[Edited on 15/8/18 by Mr Whippy]
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 06:22 PM |
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I have a 2007 version of the Chris Gibbs book as I am no longer allowed to weld I will not be using the book. Its yours for a reasonable offer.
Keith
Aviemore
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andybird
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 06:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Schrodinger
I have a 2007 version of the Chris Gibbs book as I am no longer allowed to weld I will not be using the book. Its yours for a reasonable offer.
How much you after?
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J666AYP
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| posted on 15/8/18 at 09:39 PM |
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Its impossible to say. One thing is for sure... whatever timespan you set out double it!
I thought 1,000 hours would be ample for my project, I have done that and more and I'm still nowhere near finished.
Building one to the book will certainly take less time than one with a different engine/gearbox. I have spent atleast 50 hours changing things just to
fit in the mercedes engine and running gear.
Best of luck with the build BTW.
Jay
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40inches
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| posted on 16/8/18 at 07:47 AM |
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13 years from buying the chassis to IVA. Two engine changes and one gearbox later, it's still work in progress 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 16/8/18 at 08:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
13 years from buying the chassis to IVA. Two engine changes and one gearbox later, it's still work in progress
A similar time to me, except I built my chassis!
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40inches
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| posted on 16/8/18 at 10:42 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
13 years from buying the chassis to IVA. Two engine changes and one gearbox later, it's still work in progress
A similar time to me, except I built my chassis!
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 16/8/18 at 11:09 AM |
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whatever it take when you take it outside and see just how small it is... how the hell did that take so long?!?
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nick205
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| posted on 16/8/18 at 11:43 AM |
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Another tip to add is while you may keep an accurate tab on what you've spent on it yourself this may well differ from what you inform others
you've spent on it 
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 16/8/18 at 12:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Another tip to add is while you may keep an accurate tab on what you've spent on it yourself this may well differ from what you inform others
you've spent on it
never keep tabs as you'll realise you could have bought two already on the road for what you managed to build one 
Cars they are such a total waste of money its hilarious though not the worst, I'd reserve that for private planes (live and learn...)
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hughpinder
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| posted on 16/8/18 at 12:32 PM |
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I have the gibbs book and also the midlana one. I think the mid engine design approach in the midlana book would work out quite a bit quicker to
build.
One of the best bits from midlana is the advice on which bits to buy up front (like the seats, engine/box you intend to use for example) as they often
require just a bit more/less width and this is easy to accommodate at the start of the chassis construction, and fiddling around adjusting things
after is much more time consuming.
If you go for midlana style car, I think one of the major time savings is that you will almost certainly be able to use the standard ECU/engine loom
as the installation space is similar to the original car and that will save quite a bit off time! If you buy your engine/box up front, you can
probably use standard induction set up too, depending on bulk, or at least most of it with a bit of flexible pipe and a K+N filter, and since the
exhaust isnt really visible you may be able to re-use part of that too. Also you will use the standard box/clutch/starter/alternator ...... so no
messing to fit them. Bad point for midlana - you HAVE to build your own chassis, the book seems very expensive but I guess you can count certain
savings like not having to buy gearbox to engine adapters etc! The car as built is quite heavy, but then his has huge brakes, a 14 gallon fuel tank,
17" wheels which he admits in the book aren't the best necessarily. It also uses 40*2.5mm tube (the chassis with built in roll cage would
be almost exactly twice the weight of a locost without), and it seemed to me that 40*1.8 would do the job just a well, but someone would probably need
to do the analysis to see if that was true.
Whichever way you go - have fun!
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Irony
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| posted on 17/8/18 at 09:15 AM |
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I dread to think how many hours I spent. If your a very experienced mechanic you can cut the time by half. If you have to research every process and
part that will take more time than actually building.
Some good advice above. If i were doing it again I would by a used already IVA'd car and strip back to the chassis. I'd then rebuild to
concourse condition correcting every single issue from the chassis up. I think this will save pain and money in the long run. I spent a vast amount
ordering bolts because I never seemed to have the right size or length for a particular application.
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ReMan
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| posted on 17/8/18 at 11:35 AM |
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This s a good read/overview
www.plusnine.co.uk
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Lander
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| posted on 17/8/18 at 08:16 PM |
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What you really need is a powder coated chassis with the ally panels already on it that has never been on the road ..... as luck would have it I have
a Tiger Avon chassis just like this tucked away for someone like you 
Let me know if it may be of interest ?
Cheers,
Ian
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andybird
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| posted on 29/8/18 at 07:34 PM |
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So I've gone with a Robin Hood 2b chassis. I know people don't like them but I love the look of the tubular chassis and given my brother
and I weigh 40 stone between us the extra size will help. I'm going to convert the front suspesion to a wishbone arrangement away from the
sliding pillar and then run a RX8 rear sub and carbon prop with a MX5 engine and box, turbocharged to around 250bhp. Won't be light I guess,
around 700 kg but as its track only I don't need too many bells and whistles and I'm willing to take the weight penalty.
Contraversial but gives me a headstart on the bit I feared the most.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 30/8/18 at 05:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andybird
So I've gone with a Robin Hood 2b chassis. I know people don't like them but I love the look of the tubular chassis and given my brother
and I weigh 40 stone between us the extra size will help. I'm going to convert the front suspesion to a wishbone arrangement away from the
sliding pillar and then run a RX8 rear sub and carbon prop with a MX5 engine and box, turbocharged to around 250bhp. Won't be light I guess,
around 700 kg but as its track only I don't need too many bells and whistles and I'm willing to take the weight penalty.
Contraversial but gives me a headstart on the bit I feared the most.
Tbh I mind when these came out, just after I had bought my MK kit and thought damn I should have got one of those instead
Sounds a great project
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andybird
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| posted on 30/8/18 at 06:11 AM |
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I've just got to keep the momentum up or I'll lose interest!
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 30/8/18 at 11:23 AM |
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Check out the Robin Hood owners club forum: RHOCaR
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