robinsoncrusoe55
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| posted on 7/5/10 at 10:37 PM |
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Chassis Build
i'm just in the process, of starting the build on my chassis!!..... Can anybody suggest a decent Mig welder to buy, and also a supplier of the
necessary steel needed........ Thanks
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austin man
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| posted on 7/5/10 at 10:43 PM |
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you can buy chasis packs all pre cut to the book dimensions.Clarke 150 0r 180 welder dont go gasless
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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robinsoncrusoe55
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| posted on 7/5/10 at 10:57 PM |
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......Is that for the "first" book, by Ron Champion?.......and do you reckon the Clarke mig welders, would be something suitable for a
novice welder?
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phelpsa
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| posted on 7/5/10 at 11:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by robinsoncrusoe55
......Is that for the "first" book, by Ron Champion?.......and do you reckon the Clarke mig welders, would be something suitable for a
novice welder?
I learned using my Clarke 151TE I had 2nd hand from my uncle. 7 years later it's still going strong as ever!
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LBMEFM
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| posted on 8/5/10 at 04:34 AM |
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I learned using my Clarke 151TE I had 2nd hand from my uncle. 7 years later it's still going strong as ever!
Behold a miracle, everything I have personally bought made by Clarkes has been complete rubbish.
[Edited on 8/5/10 by LBMEFM]
[Edited on 8/5/10 by LBMEFM]
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handyandy
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| posted on 8/5/10 at 08:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by robinsoncrusoe55
......Is that for the "first" book, by Ron Champion?.......and do you reckon the Clarke mig welders, would be something suitable for a
novice welder?
Chassis kits are available for both the Ron Champion or Chris Gibbs chassis,
the Ron Champion chassis is "live axled" & the Chris Gibbs chassis has full independant suspension using the sierra as a donor, its
also 2 inches wider & 4 inches longer than the original, its known as the Haynes Roadster.
hope that helps.
cheers
andy
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 8/5/10 at 09:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by LBMEFM
Behold a miracle, everything I have personally bought made by Clarkes has been complete rubbish.
Id second the 151TE. Never had any problems in 3 1/2 years.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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BenB
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| posted on 8/5/10 at 10:07 AM |
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150A or above will do the trick nicely.
Just one thing- if you're a novice welder I hope you're prepared to do lots of practising before welding up your chassis! It's not
the kind of thing you want to do badly..... And whatever you do, weld you wishbones last (you'll be quite good by then  ).
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phelpsa
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| posted on 8/5/10 at 10:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by LBMEFM
I learned using my Clarke 151TE I had 2nd hand from my uncle. 7 years later it's still going strong as ever!
Behold a miracle, everything I have personally bought made by Clarkes has been complete rubbish.
[Edited on 8/5/10 by LBMEFM]
[Edited on 8/5/10 by LBMEFM]
I've never heard a bad word spoken about the larger Clarke migs, some of the smaller ones are rebadged chinese ones though I believe.
The only bad thing about Clarke is spares availability, my local welding supplies place has given up on them as they just can't get parts! Ask
for anything and its 'currently on back order' 
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 8/5/10 at 11:47 AM |
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I bought a Clarke 105EN about twelve years ago, and passed it onto my brother when I was given a (very second hand!) 150A Clarke MIG by my grandad.
Both welders are still going strong.
I did a euro torch conversion on mine recently, and also added a super heavy duty earth cable and clamp which has greatly improved it.
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 8/5/10 at 12:18 PM |
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clarke are the best for learners.
fill in your profile so that we know where you are. that way someone may be willing to pop round and point you in the right direction/give free
tutorial.
also may be able to recommend someone who does cheap steel in your area.
A man isn't complete until he's married, then he's finished
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robinsoncrusoe55
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| posted on 9/5/10 at 08:55 PM |
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Thanks everybody for the helpful replies....Fully intend to get lots of practise, before doing the "real thing", and I think I'm
going to get all the suspension parts professionally welded- for safety reasons!. Was considering, enrolling on a practical college course, to try to
gain a real skill in welding!. Is the euro torch conversion, the way to go with Clarke welders, or is that just a "personal preference
thing"..... also have updated profile!. what other "Makes" of welders, have you others got?.... and have you got any more
feedback..... Thanks again.
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prawnabie
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| posted on 9/5/10 at 09:17 PM |
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Handyandy is the man for the steel!
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handyandy
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| posted on 9/5/10 at 09:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by prawnabie
Handyandy is the man for the steel!
Thankyou,
I try not to "force feed " the kits i supply as don,t wish to bore folk or go against the forum rules of trader status etc.
was nice to meet you at stoneleigh, and your car, very smart indeed.
cheers
andy
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 9/5/10 at 09:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by robinsoncrusoe55
Thanks everybody for the helpful replies....Fully intend to get lots of practise, before doing the "real thing", and I think I'm
going to get all the suspension parts professionally welded- for safety reasons!. Was considering, enrolling on a practical college course, to try to
gain a real skill in welding!. Is the euro torch conversion, the way to go with Clarke welders, or is that just a "personal preference
thing"..... also have updated profile!. what other "Makes" of welders, have you others got?.... and have you got any more
feedback..... Thanks again.
This kind of post crops up more often than I think it should on a website of this calibre (and SEARCH capability)
If you are going to get the bones welded up professionally then thats fine. Personally I think I'd rather have a wheel hit the deck and some
loss of steering ability rather than the chassis snap in half on a tight bend...
Either become a competent welder from the start (will take you longer than you think) or buy a chassis.
One route will teach you a skill and leave you with a never impending doubt of the chassis ending yours and others lives. The other will have you on
the build process and on the road in 1/10th the time.....
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eddie99
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| posted on 9/5/10 at 09:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
quote:
Originally posted by robinsoncrusoe55
Thanks everybody for the helpful replies....Fully intend to get lots of practise, before doing the "real thing", and I think I'm
going to get all the suspension parts professionally welded- for safety reasons!. Was considering, enrolling on a practical college course, to try to
gain a real skill in welding!. Is the euro torch conversion, the way to go with Clarke welders, or is that just a "personal preference
thing"..... also have updated profile!. what other "Makes" of welders, have you others got?.... and have you got any more
feedback..... Thanks again.
This kind of post crops up more often than I think it should on a website of this calibre (and SEARCH capability)
If you are going to get the bones welded up professionally then thats fine. Personally I think I'd rather have a wheel hit the deck and some
loss of steering ability rather than the chassis snap in half on a tight bend...
Either become a competent welder from the start (will take you longer than you think) or buy a chassis.
One route will teach you a skill and leave you with a never impending doubt of the chassis ending yours and others lives. The other will have you on
the build process and on the road in 1/10th the time.....
Well said Steve, +1!!!
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robinsoncrusoe55
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
quote:
Originally posted by robinsoncrusoe55
Thanks everybody for the helpful replies....Fully intend to get lots of practise, before doing the "real thing", and I think I'm
going to get all the suspension parts professionally welded- for safety reasons!. Was considering, enrolling on a practical college course, to try to
gain a real skill in welding!. Is the euro torch conversion, the way to go with Clarke welders, or is that just a "personal preference
thing"..... also have updated profile!. what other "Makes" of welders, have you others got?.... and have you got any more
feedback..... Thanks again.
This kind of post crops up more often than I think it should on a website of this calibre (and SEARCH capability)
If you are going to get the bones welded up professionally then thats fine. Personally I think I'd rather have a wheel hit the deck and some
loss of steering ability rather than the chassis snap in half on a tight bend...
Either become a competent welder from the start (will take you longer than you think) or buy a chassis.
One route will teach you a skill and leave you with a never impending doubt of the chassis ending yours and others lives. The other will have you on
the build process and on the road in 1/10th the time.....
Steve.... not sure that I
fully understand what you are saying.... when you say " this type of post".... the point I was making was..... as I'm sure most
builders would agree (both new and old!) is, that it is far better to gain a certain amount of competence, in basic welding skills,before starting any
project, that could impact on anyones safety!.Personally I'd rather not have "a wheel hit the deck",especially, if I was on a bend
in the road doing 50mph......with pedestrians near-by!!. I fully intend to make my own chassis, as i'm sure you'll agree, this is a major
part of the car build.......I've no doubt, there's no way, I'll be a "competent welder from the start"........I expect
to make loads and loads of mistakes, before, being able, to do even an half decent weld!!....... so to end... I'd rather take 10 times longer,
to complete the build.... enjoy it..... but build it with a confidence, that I've done it right!!
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