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DH2

posted on 23/4/12 at 12:52 PM Reply With Quote
Engine Mount Design

Hi all.

I have been looking and thinking about mounting my new engine in the chassis.
Are there any rules, or generally recognised ideas, with regard to how to do this? I have bought a pair of the Land Rover rubber mounts - what orientation are they employed in a Landy, horizontal or at an angle? What sort of material thicknesses should I be looking at using? Is 3mm steel enough?

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loggyboy

posted on 23/4/12 at 12:59 PM Reply With Quote
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=168116





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DH2

posted on 23/4/12 at 01:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=168116


Thanks Log' - I remember seeing that thread now you mention it.
Here's a "composite" one I was having a play with yesterday, so I guess I am on the right track...



Oh and some Google searching seems to suggest that the LR mounts are installed at a slight angle - I arbitrarily went for about 30 degrees on my mock-up.

[Edited on 23/4/12 by DH2]

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loggyboy

posted on 23/4/12 at 02:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DH2
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=168116


Thanks Log' - I remember seeing that thread now you mention it.
Here's a "composite" one I was having a play with yesterday, so I guess I am on the right track...



Oh and some Google searching seems to suggest that the LR mounts are installed at a slight angle - I arbitrarily went for about 30 degrees on my mock-up.

[Edited on 23/4/12 by DH2]


Mockup does look similar, but there would be no way to reach the top nut, and I wouldnt just want to drill a hole in the tube to reach it as it would be a weak spot.
I plan on copying the Raw mount I posted, and mounting mine Horizontal. The land rover mounts are just blocks of rubber, so I would suggest anywhere between horizontal and about 30degress would be fine.





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posted on 23/4/12 at 04:04 PM Reply With Quote
Both my LR mounts are verticle on the striker? Are yours different loggy?





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loggyboy

posted on 23/4/12 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
I havent made them yet, the picture I posted on the other thread are the Raw ones I assumed were factory, which I was going to order, but at £45+vat, I knew I could do it alot cheaper (less than £25!)





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jacko

posted on 23/4/12 at 05:08 PM Reply With Quote
engine mounting
engine mounting

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This is how i made mine not landrover but you could make them fit
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mad4x4

posted on 23/4/12 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jacko
engine mounting
engine mounting

Description
Description

Description
Description

This is how i made mine not landrover but you could make them fit
Jacko


What is the over complicated rose joint bit for ?



The angle on of the Mount to a landrover chassis is approx 45 Deg's

[Edited on 23/404/12 by mad4x4]





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DH2

posted on 24/4/12 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Mockup does look similar, but there would be no way to reach the top nut, and I wouldnt just want to drill a hole in the tube to reach it as it would be a weak spot.
I plan on copying the Raw mount I posted, and mounting mine Horizontal. The land rover mounts are just blocks of rubber, so I would suggest anywhere between horizontal and about 30degress would be fine.


The top nut would have to be captive in that example... not quite as flexible in terms fitting the engine, but with the rubber mount at an angle, there isn't much choice.
I think having the rubber at an angle makes some sense, as per the post in the thread you linked - there is maximum resistance to movement in compression of the rubber mount, and this is what you want to resist the engine rocking, but it will allow some movement in other planes.

That's my current thinking anyway. Thanks for the advice, all.

Edit to add: no, not the thread you linked, one I searched - here.

DH2

[Edited on 24/4/12 by DH2]

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jacko

posted on 28/4/12 at 02:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
quote:
Originally posted by jacko
engine mounting
engine mounting

Description
Description

Description
Description

This is how i made mine not landrover but you could make them fit
Jacko


What is the over complicated rose joint bit for ?



The angle on of the Mount to a landrover chassis is approx 45 Deg's

[Edited on 23/404/12 by mad4x4]


Hi the rose joint part i added to the MK engine mount as a stabiliser for the engine as the alternator pulley use to hit the chassis
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clanger

posted on 29/4/12 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
my variation for the Duratec install on my Striker...........got to be better than the one that was supposed to holding the Crossflow I took out !!!




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