Dale
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| posted on 24/5/05 at 11:53 AM |
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camber and toe live axle
My understanding is that factory live axles usually have a bit of camber built into them (very little)and I am not sure about toe. When we weld the
brackets to the back of the axle I am assuming that we will shrink the back of the axle tube and cause some toe out.and maybe even screwup what ever
neg camber may have been built in.
Has anyone welded a bead on the front side or top side of the axle to try and adjust this a bit.
Dale
Thanks
Dale
my 14 and11 year old boys 22
and 19 now want to drive but have to be 25 before insurance will allow. Finally on the road
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Bob C
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| posted on 26/5/05 at 11:25 AM |
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I'd expect them to be designed for absolute zero camber and toe or esle the half shaft splines woyld have to be stirring around in the diff
pinions. That can't be right! I have no verifiable dat one way or another so am prepared for a crescendo of rebuttals...
Oh yeah - for camber & toe settings remember the wheel flange is part of the half shaft so everything pivots round the diff pinion splines.
cheers
Bob
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NS Dev
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| posted on 26/5/05 at 11:52 AM |
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I don't know about production axles being deliberately set with neagtive camber, but after a few years use many certainly dont have the wheels
pointing where they started out! The halfshaft splines will take a surprising amount of misalignment!
You are quite right Dale, that it is one downside of the "book" trailing arm brackets that they are welded only at the front of the
axle.
The Mk2 escort rally prep book, published by Ford for many years, shows the brackets used on the works Ford escort rally cars (and all gp 4 cars built
since) and these are "diamond" shaped brackets, with a big hole in the middle for the axle tube and small holes top and bottom for the
bolts. You use 4 of these, with steel strip welded between each pair. normally you split them about the big hole to get them around the axle.
The big plus of these is that they are welded all the way around, so the axle doesn't get pulled by the weld in any one direction.
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Peteff
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| posted on 26/5/05 at 10:45 PM |
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I read ages ago about some rally teams running weld on the axle casing to actually give toe in. It doesn't sound like a very exact science
though.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Rorty
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| posted on 27/5/05 at 05:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
I don't know about production axles being deliberately set with neagtive camber, but after a few years use many certainly dont have the wheels
pointing where they started out! The halfshaft splines will take a surprising amount of misalignment!
Some touring car teams used to wedge the hubs to gain a little toe and camber. One team I know of actually fit ted CVs to the ends of the axles for
even more adjustment.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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blueshift
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| posted on 30/5/05 at 11:35 AM |
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Speaking to darren of GTS tuning a while back, he advocated shimming the hub carrier onto the de dion tube to adjust camber and toe. that's with
sierra driveshafts with CV joints, though.
And hello everyone, I'm not dead, and not given up on the car.. 
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James
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| posted on 1/6/05 at 07:31 AM |
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Good to see you back blueshift.
Car come on at all?
Cheers,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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blueshift
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| posted on 1/6/05 at 11:37 PM |
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hi james
as for car progress, not really in the last 6 months, still not yet rolling chassis 
I moved from st albans and the car is still there. need to get my finger out and sort the garage here (at my dad's), and fix my friend's
van, so I can move the locost. Things are, slowly, progressing towards that though.
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