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skamanfrank

posted on 22/11/05 at 05:22 PM Reply With Quote
Prebuilt chassis

Hi ya guys

first post on her so quick background, im 17 from brentwood essex, i bought Ron Champions book about 3 years ago when i won the technology prize at school and have been desperate to build a locost ever since, epecially as i will hopefully soon be driving.... i dont want a chav'd to the max 106 thats for sure!!

I appreciate this is probably a much asked/debated topic so please forgive me for asking, but what prebuilt chassis are out there and which ones are best?
if you include links that would be awesome



cheers guys, all help much apreciated

[Edited on 22/11/05 by skamanfrank]





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flak monkey

posted on 22/11/05 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
See...

The Manufacturers sections on this site!!!

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David

PS Welcome to the nut house

[Edited on 22/11/05 by flak monkey]





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andyharding

posted on 22/11/05 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
You couldn't go wrong with MK's Locost kit for a grand.

Give them a call and have a chat...

If this had been available when I started I wouldn't have done a scratch build.

[Edited on 22/11/05 by andyharding]





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jon_boy

posted on 22/11/05 at 05:26 PM Reply With Quote
Check the links section of the website and there are a few companies that sell them. Also a company called lo-locost. A good place might be ebay or indeed the forsale section on here. Many a person starts a project then gives up with just a chassis and sells it, its just waiting for someone near enough to you.
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skamanfrank

posted on 22/11/05 at 05:37 PM Reply With Quote
excellent ta

of course the other option is wait until i have done the automotive engineering degree im currently applying for.... but that involves patience :p





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UncleFista

posted on 22/11/05 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
IMHO avoid Lolocost, they're cheap for a reason....





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:00 PM Reply With Quote
If you live in essex, GTS in kent is not that far. So picking chassis up would be easy enough





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flak monkey

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:15 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
If you live in essex, GTS in kent is not that far. So picking chassis up would be easy enough


Yup, very good point . Top notch products too

David





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andyharding

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:16 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
If you live in essex, GTS in kent is not that far. So picking chassis up would be easy enough


Yup, very good point . Top notch products too

David


Shame about the customer service though...





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donut

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
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BKLOCO

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
Welcome to the nut house!!!!!!!!!

I'd go along with Ben
I would advise you to buy as locally as possible.

GTS are just by the Dartford crossing. They sell an excellant chassis that will accept all Sierra runnung gear.

I am in the process of building one and if you look in my photo archive you will see pictures of the GTS chassis there.

Darren will sell you any level of kit you want from just a chassis right up to a full comprehensive kit or even a turnkey car.

I cant emphasize the local bit enough though as you will inevitably want to go to speak to the manufacturer on several occasions.

By the way what school did you attend?
Both my sons went to what used to be called Hedley Walter but has now changed its name I believe. I used to come from round there.... Stondon Massey...

EDIT
Don't listen to the MK boys They're biased.

They're no better or worse than a lot of other manufacturers

Remember they are all efectively cottage industries and you will get both problems and good experiences from whoever you go with.... Thats half the fun of it....

[Edited on 22-11-05 by BKLOCO]

[Edited on 22-11-05 by BKLOCO]





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andyharding


Shame about the customer service though...


Its getting better tho.. and the products are of the highest quality !

Plus i never have trouble getting through to him, 99% of the time he answers the phone. Always get anything i need easy enough.





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JoelP

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:36 PM Reply With Quote
we, id say build one yourself, from scratch. Why? Because insuring a kit at 17 isnt going to be cheap, plus it will learn you a whole load of skills that will be useful for life Best thing i ever did was learning to weld, and now im learning (experimenting) with design too






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donut

posted on 22/11/05 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
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Don't listen to the MK boys There biased.



oooh i don't know what you mean???





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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 22/11/05 at 07:18 PM Reply With Quote
mk,GTS,luego,MNR are the ones which usually come out of most peoples mouths first I have had contact with all of the companies mentioned above. 2 were brilliant 2 were not. It won't take you long to find this out for yourself. Ring them and look at their sites.

as for prebuilt chassis I think luego sell the locost and velocity chassis seperatley but not the viento. I think GTS and MK sell chassis seperatley(not sure though). MNR I am pretty sure don't. Though when I can afford a kit I will be purchasing an MNR

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 22/11/05 at 07:30 PM Reply With Quote
GTS sell everything separately or together. Prebuilt or ready to make. Whatever you want, you can have most of the time





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caber

posted on 22/11/05 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
I am another vote for build it yourself. You will learn a lot along the way and just think of how proud you will be to tell people no I didn't buy a kit i built it from a pile of steel and ally!

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Gav

posted on 22/11/05 at 09:07 PM Reply With Quote
Ive personally built from scratch, id bought the steel before id evan looked at the kits, next time i would buy a kit simply to save time although making the chassis is a great experience and to get the base chassis done istn too much of a problem.
I also bought my wishbones and pretty much everything else from GTS, i evan rang darren once for advice which he was most helpful with. The only downside is ive been waiting for my parts from darren for nearly 3 months now, which reminds me, best give him a ring tomorrow

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 22/11/05 at 11:33 PM Reply With Quote
I am building from scratch, well sort of. Mcsorley chassis luego bones and trailing arms, gts dedion. the list goes on





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robinbastd

posted on 22/11/05 at 11:57 PM Reply With Quote
Warning: This post will upset the massed ranks of the worshippers of the Church of MK.
The powdercoated chassis on show at the Exeter show was awful.
I saw at least 2 places where the welds had been over ground by about half the thickness of the tube,the bent square section tubes were domed and there was a divot big enough to rest a cigar in where one of the bent tubes met the front bulkhead.
Sadly I forgot to take my camera.

The moral of this is go and look for yourself,by all means listen to the enthusiasts/owners/mates but their word isn't gospel.

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Triton

posted on 23/11/05 at 12:03 AM Reply With Quote
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Peteff

posted on 23/11/05 at 12:42 AM Reply With Quote
welds had been over ground by about half the thickness of the tube

I think Robinbloke has a hidden agenda or something, does he take a micrometer to shows? I don't worship anybody, I'm building my own second chassis but I would not criticise any manufacturer for their finishing of welds for the sake of .8mm to the naked eye. Take your camera next time and your micrometer.





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 23/11/05 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
Would of thought it an easy thing to see... Over ground a weld before and it sticks out a mile when it's lower than the tubes in question ??!?!?!





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Syd Bridge

posted on 23/11/05 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
If properly and professionally done, no weld should need grinding.

I'd be suspicious of any kit, regardless of brand, where welds have been ground for 'cosmetic' purposes.

But I'm suspicious of everything.

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Peteff

posted on 23/11/05 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
Would of (have?) thought it an easy thing to see.

Under a layer of powdercoat? The welds shouldn't be ground but to fit bodywork they do need linishing. I use 80 grit fibre disks on a backing pad to do mine so they don't dig in and take too much off. They are cheaper than grinding disks and last longer as a bonus. It's not a trade secret so I'm sure MK do the same. To come out with a damning and personal statement like this and not offer any evidence just seems a bit underhand to me, didn't anyone else see it and feel moved enough to comment? The divots and domes in square tube are obviously a result of bending them in a former as anyone who looks at tubular fabrications and furniture will notice, it's unavoidable and not something I like the look of myself but it's their way of doing it.





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