donut
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 09:16 AM |
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cost of chassis build?
Just wondering how much it has cost you to build just the chassis?
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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ned
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 09:34 AM |
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more than it costs to buy one thats for sure (buying welder + tools), and about 2 years longer than it takes to pick one up from a manufacturer!
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Gav
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 09:35 AM |
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Excluding tools about £200 for materials,
Including tools about £2000 
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donut
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 09:35 AM |
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hmmmmm
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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nitram38
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 09:41 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Gav
Excluding tools about £200 for materials,
Including tools about £2000
You can buy a reasonable s.i.p mig welder for around £250-300.
The car in my avatar cost around £100 in steel. If you go to a local fabricator rather than a steel stock holder, they may let you have materials for
a lot less, especially if they are left over from a job and all they will do is rot on their racks.
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donut
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 09:54 AM |
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Martin, how did you design your own chassis?
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Gav
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 10:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
You can buy a reasonable s.i.p mig welder for around £250-300.
The car in my avatar cost around £100 in steel.
To qualify what i meant:
Tubes: £120 ish
3mm 6x4 sheet: £35
2x 1.5mm 6x4 ally sheets: £80
Tools, now being a big kid(arent we all? ), ive managed to stock my garage with pretty much all the equipment ive ever wanted
Clarke 160T welder: £220
Compressor: £200ish
Compressor tools: £150
Plasma Cutter: £370
Small grinder: £15
large grinder: £35
bench grinder: £20
lathe: £300
Tap&Die set: £20
Dremmel type thing: £30
and probably a couple of hundred more for misc things that ive needed over the last 8 months.
So that just leaves a milling machine and a TIG left to go and i think im pretty well tooled up!
just hope the missus never see's this list, she still thinks im on course for £250 as per the 'book'!
[Edited on 21/2/06 by Gav]
[Edited on 21/2/06 by Gav]
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big_wasa
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 10:18 AM |
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Bassic chassis around £100 but all the 3mm plate and extras are adding up fast.
The chassis all in will cost around £250 but that incluedes £50 for the roll bar.
You cant add the price of your tools 
But if I add gas and wire and other consuamables price would be circa £350-£400 
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JoelP
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 10:20 AM |
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put it like this, second chassis is much cheaper than first! Seeing as i already have a stock of metal in, its basically free  Tool cost doesnt
count, as you need them anyway
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ned
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 10:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
Tool cost doesnt count, as you need them anyway
i agree with what you're saying in principal Joel, but fact of the matter is that if you don't already have them you need to factor them
into the budget or you won't be able to cut or assemble the steel that you've bought!
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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JonBowden
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 12:48 PM |
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I think that unless you want to build something non-standard, it will be better and cheaper to buy a chassis
Jon
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Dutchman
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 01:49 PM |
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It's a little pricy in UK for tools and goods...
anyway I got all the steel for 60euro and will have leftovers
all other tools I think I got, just MIG i boroved from pal of mine... but planing to bought 160amps MIG and the price is from 350euro to 1000e for 250
amps + the CO2 tanks whish are seconhand around 100e for 40Kg
so I can export chassis ... what is the price for powercoated bookchassis
Tarzan English with foreign accent!
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andyps
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 01:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ned
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
Tool cost doesnt count, as you need them anyway
i agree with what you're saying in principal Joel, but fact of the matter is that if you don't already have them you need to factor them
into the budget or you won't be able to cut or assemble the steel that you've bought!
Ned.
But what if you already had them all? The only extra tools I have bought is a £15 set of drill and angle grinder, both of which I already had but
thought I would have disposable ones for the build. I had a welder, compressor and even a hack saw which is what I am using to cut the tube. I did buy
some new blades however!
Actually, I have bought an engine crane since buying the donor, but I had two other cars which needed engine swaps at the time so it almost paid for
itself against hiring for those two jobs.
All my steel tubes were under £80, not bought the sheet yet, roll bar £10, so working out pretty locost so far
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 03:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
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You can buy a reasonable s.i.p mig welder for around £250-300.
SIP ugh ! never again !!!!! --- Clarke and others much better quality for the same money.
Also Cosmo = re-branded SIP.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 03:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Gav
Excluding tools about £200 for materials,
Including tools about £2000
Yep --- nearer 3k for tools if like me you actually like buying exactly the right tool for every job..
Buy a chassis you know it makes sense.
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JoelP
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 03:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Buy a chassis you know it makes sense.
NOOO! if you want to bulid one car and drive it, buy the chassis. If you plan a lifetime of abusing homemade fast cars, start building chassis now!
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Gav
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 04:00 PM |
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Amen to that Joel
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 04:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Buy a chassis you know it makes sense.
NOOO! if you want to bulid one car and drive it, buy the chassis. If you plan a lifetime of abusing homemade fast cars, start building chassis now!
Since when did sense come in to it ;-)
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donut
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 04:27 PM |
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Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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907
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 04:40 PM |
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Cost of stainless steel box and w/b tube £150
Less cost of shot blasting, powder coating & waxoil £150
= £0
No........ that can't be right.
Paul G
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andyps
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 05:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
Cost of stainless steel box and w/b tube £150
Less cost of shot blasting, powder coating & waxoil £150
= £0
No........ that can't be right.
Paul G
Nice thinking.
To follow that logic:
Cost of steel - £80
Less cost of buying a chassis - £500
= -£420
So I still have £670 to fit within Uncle Ron's budget. That is how you do it
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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Avoneer
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 05:24 PM |
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I'm up to about £400 for my chassis.
That includes a full cage by MK Engineering though.
And there's no more to add to it.
Pat...
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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907
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 06:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andyps
quote:
Originally posted by 907
Cost of stainless steel box and w/b tube £150
Less cost of shot blasting, powder coating & waxoil £150
= £0
No........ that can't be right.
Paul G
Nice thinking.
To follow that logic:
Cost of steel - £80
Less cost of buying a chassis - £500
= -£420
So I still have £670 to fit within Uncle Ron's budget. That is how you do it
Sorry Andy, I wasn't totally honest.
+ £5 for acid, to clean off the weld discolouration.
Paul G
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caber
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| posted on 21/2/06 at 11:08 PM |
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Steel tube £86
Plate and bits £26
Brackets free off mate
Sheet for underside out a scrap pile
Angle grinder disks £20
welding rod £11
Gas £25
total £168
I bought a cheap cut off saw that wil be used for other jobs for £50
a tig welder for £120 Both off ebay
a £20 jigsaw for plate from B&Q as the *** I lent mine to still hasn't returned it!
These are investments so not really chargeable to the chassis I suppose you could add depreciation of say £20 for wear and tear so chassis total £188
+ about 50 hours. Cheepest chassis I have seen is about £280 so it paid me less than £2 per hour for all that work but I learned a lot and enjoyed
it
Caber
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DIY Si
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| posted on 24/2/06 at 12:32 AM |
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If your building just 1 car, sod it just buy it. You won't be waiting around for ages changing your mind roughly once a week! Just make sure you
buy precisely what you want or you're buggered. I made my chassis, but at 4" wider and longer i still want a little extra space. But i am
6'3", weigh 15 stone and am rather broad. Oh and having size 12 feet doesn't help either
[Edited on 26/2/06 by DIY Si]
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