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Gremlin

posted on 26/6/03 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
Crome it!

Is it expensive to get things like wishbones and roll bar cromed?





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ned

posted on 26/6/03 at 03:02 PM Reply With Quote
I don't know about cost, but i've heard its not a good idea as you can't see cracks in welds/tubes under the chrome....

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andyps

posted on 26/6/03 at 03:23 PM Reply With Quote
I think you would see cracks - surely the chrome would crack too - it is generally very brittle.





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David Jenkins

posted on 26/6/03 at 03:23 PM Reply With Quote
Also the chrome can cause cracks... it's very brittle, so the chrome plating cracks. These cracks then propagate into the steel base.

You could look at cadmium plating as an alternative. It's softer than chrome, so doesn't start cracks. Not quite as shiny, but still nice to look at - available in silver or 'greeny-goldy' colours.

Cheaper, too!

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splitrivet

posted on 26/6/03 at 03:54 PM Reply With Quote
If your chroming tube such as roll bars etc best to take the tube first to a metal polishers where they can run it thru a machine to polish it, then have it bent/welded etc after that get it plated .Otherwise it'd have to be polished by hand which is dearer than the chroming.
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James

posted on 26/6/03 at 04:09 PM Reply With Quote
I was told it's banned under the 750MC regs because of it hiding cracks. Cadmium/Nickel(?) is ok though.

..so I've heard...!


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stephen_gusterson

posted on 26/6/03 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
I asked for a quote for a windscreen surround being chromed.

It was 200 quid.

obscene


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Steve

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I dunt know how good it is, but you can by 'chrome' paint. Search on line.

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Gremlin

posted on 26/6/03 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
Humm maybe not then.





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Rorty

posted on 27/6/03 at 12:31 AM Reply With Quote
There are ways and means to getting a top quality chrome job done, but it would be very expensive. The finish can be de-embrittled, but the biggest problem is getting the copper/nickel/chrome to adhere to any concave surfaces.
Have you ever looked at the inside of an old chromed bumper? They're usually quite rusty, simply because of the current used in the chroming process leaps from one high spot to another, thus by-passing all the nooks and crannies.
By very careful placement of the anodes (or is it diodes...always confuse them) in the concave areas, a passable finish can be achieved. Imagine the problems in and around some of the MIG welds! The wishbones would be best TIGged or brazed for really smooth joints.
Worst of all though, the wishbones would probably still rust anyway, unless you keep them coated in something like WD40 or Innox.
Cadmium plating with or without the gold irridated finish will suffer the same problems as chroming, as it too, is an electrolitic process.
As I say, it can be done, but the platers would really have to know what they're doing, and the extra work involved in eliminating missed concave areas would make it prohibitively expensive for a low volume application.
If you're aiming to avoid painting/powder coating the items, there are various non-electrolitic finishes available; some can be done at home, and others must be carried out by professionals, due to either poisonous/explosive gasses emitted.
Whatever finish you choose, will be relatively short lived due to the environment the wishbones inhabit.
As long as you don't plan any further welding to your 'bones, powder coating is probably the best finish.
Areas such as the lower shock mounts, can easily be damaged when assembling the shocks etc. If you do damage the powder coating, give it a squirt of WD40 straight away, otherwise rust will soon get under the rest of the finish.
The outer ends of the 'bones, where the trackrod end's jam nut will abutt, is best masked before the 'bones are coated, otherwise the jam nut can squirm on the powder coating, resulting in a loosened TRE!





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kingr

posted on 27/6/03 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
One word of caution regarding cadmium coating - don't weld anything with it on, the fumes are toxic and can cause very serious kidney problems/failure. Don't want to seem alarmist, but it's better that you all know before rather than after.

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