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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
seat belt anchor points

As many of you have already pointed out I've done a poor job of my top seat belt mount welds. Please have a look at the word attachment where I've shown what i propose to do. I'd like peoples honest opinions.

by the way, i don't want to grind off what I've already done.





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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 09:24 AM Reply With Quote
top anchor point pic

as you can see not strong enough Rescued attachment top mount.jpg
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02GF74

posted on 29/4/08 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
what is wrong with a triangular gusset each side of the nut?

(in red) Rescued attachment gusset.jpg
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Mr Whippy

posted on 29/4/08 at 09:37 AM Reply With Quote
as above, two each side of each anchor point





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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 09:40 AM Reply With Quote
excellent! that'll do me!





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02GF74

posted on 29/4/08 at 10:06 AM Reply With Quote
I would recommend you read section 5 seat belt anchorage strength assessment of SVA manual.






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Mr Whippy

posted on 29/4/08 at 10:20 AM Reply With Quote
just looked at your photo archive, well jellous, that will look so smart when finished lol at the width





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MikeR

posted on 29/4/08 at 11:46 AM Reply With Quote
I'd do what the others have suggested

PLUS

Add a bar (removable if needed) from the middle of each set of seat belt mounts to the rear engine side tubes - that way the force of you're body on the seat belts has to break / bend / twist the existing tube and also pull in the chassis side rails at the side. If you can do both you're either the fattest man alive or probably cheese wired by your seat belt harness.

I have known someone fail SVA for just welding to the top chassis rail as he raised up the mounting by a couple of inches and therefore induced a twisting motion in the rail.

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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 01:04 PM Reply With Quote
just like this?

just like this?





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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 01:05 PM Reply With Quote
oops

try again Rescued attachment seat belt mount.jpg
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BenB

posted on 29/4/08 at 01:31 PM Reply With Quote
Yup. But I don't see what the horizontal plate welded under the triangulations is supposed to do??
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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 01:53 PM Reply With Quote
i just thought cut it from rectangular hollow section, thats all





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BenB

posted on 29/4/08 at 01:57 PM Reply With Quote
Fair enough- though it will reduce mean that each triangulation fillet is welded on one side only....
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Mr Whippy

posted on 29/4/08 at 02:09 PM Reply With Quote
I see no issues with that, fully seem weld it.

Remember to radius the edges everywhere in the cabin including around the harness connections behind the seats. Where this is not practical like on sheet metal sections use plastic U section. How’s the dash? is it rounded at the bottom?

Would like to see more pictures of the car.





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Mr Whippy

posted on 29/4/08 at 02:17 PM Reply With Quote
Does your steering column have a collapsible section? As it looks very straight Rescued attachment mini steering.JPG
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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
i've altered the steering column since i saw the bit in the SVA about not having a straight connection, can't remember off the top of my head the angle i have to achieve but it'll mean lenthening the main shaft and shortening the lower shaft.
both have splined ends, i was going to cut, sleeve and weld them.

or i'll be looking at alternatives at Stoneleigh on Sunday!

Not sure about the dash, i need to get my head around the mini windscreen/spaceframe junction.
i'm tempted to mold the whole thing in foam and make a one off fibreglass dash but not sure yet!?

i've changed the pedal box since too! Rescued attachment 23_04_07 006.jpg
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posted on 29/4/08 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
pic of pillow bearing for steering culumn support! Rescued attachment 20_04_07 010.jpg
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rumplitter

posted on 29/4/08 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
as for the dash

like i say, not sure how to create the dash/chassis together.

I've sketched how i see it on the attached word document.

suggestions on a post card please





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