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EasyJimbo - 20/4/09 at 12:13 PM

Guys I am thinking about ordering the donor pack from MK with my kit, does this include all the nuts and bolts you need also? If not where do you source these from?
thanks
James

mads - 20/4/09 at 12:34 PM

Nuts and bolts arent included afaik but you can get them from your local motor factor (dont ask me which ones you need as i dont have a clue myself)

james h - 20/4/09 at 01:23 PM

When I got my donor pack about 3 years ago, it was like mk literally just took the stuff off a sierra, no nuts and bolts included.

If this is still the case, and I think it probably will be, then you can get all your nuts and bolts from a local motor factors as said above. Also have a look on eBay, you can always find what you want there. If its just general assembly you are needing them for, best bet is to get an assorted pack from someone like rallydesign.

Hope that helps,

James

Staple balls - 20/4/09 at 01:32 PM

Probably worth buying twice as many nuts as you think you'll need too, something always goes wrong

EasyJimbo - 20/4/09 at 02:15 PM

Thanks for the replies, have checked rally design and they have some packs, anyone know what UNC and UNF stand for?
thanks
J

theconrodkid - 20/4/09 at 02:40 PM

screwfix is the best place for bulk packs,dont get stainless for load bearing applications, MK should supply bolts for suspension etc (did in my case).
unf/unc are imperial,you need metric fixings

nick205 - 20/4/09 at 02:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EasyJimbo
Thanks for the replies, have checked rally design and they have some packs, anyone know what UNC and UNF stand for?
thanks
J



IIRC it's Unified National Coarse and Fine

You'll be wanting metric M8, M10, M12 etc though

[Edited on 20/4/09 by nick205]

EasyJimbo - 20/4/09 at 02:51 PM

Thanks Guys:-) For load bearing places what material nuts etc should I use?
thanks
J

nick205 - 20/4/09 at 03:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EasyJimbo
Thanks Guys:-) For load bearing places what material nuts etc should I use?
thanks
J



Load bearing nuts and bolts should be steel (not stainless steel) and rated at 8.8 tensile strength (stamped on the head of bolts). Some bolts - e.g. drive shaft to diff bolts - might need to be higher tensile strength - typically 12.9 socket cap bolts.

If in doubt about a specific fixing then ask on here.

EasyJimbo - 20/4/09 at 04:35 PM

Great thanks, can you buy these steel nuts and bolts at rally design or do you have to source from somewhere else?
thanks
J

ReMan - 20/4/09 at 06:10 PM

For nuts and bolts use somewhere else!!

Staple balls - 20/4/09 at 06:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
For nuts and bolts use somewhere else!!


This.

What I did was;

www.Screwfix.co.uk - M6-M12 bolts, nuts, washers
www.Namrick.co.uk - Seatbelt bolts, small orders of other stuff where I don't need 10+
Ebay - When I only need a couple of something, and don't want to pay the postage from other shops.

*IF* by some miracle, you can't get what you need from those 3 sites, then you might want to look at ford parts dealers, rally design and burton power. But they'll likely be more pricey than the 3 sites listed above.

Also, threaded rod is your friend, you can commit no end of sins with that if you can't find suitable bolts

EasyJimbo - 20/4/09 at 06:45 PM

thanks all
James

Mark G - 20/4/09 at 10:17 PM

James, If you're ever in weston there's a place on the way out on winterstoke road oposite halfords called nuts'n'bolts I bought an assortment from there when I started my build.

MikeR - 20/4/09 at 10:30 PM

whats wrong with using stainless?

mad-butcher - 21/4/09 at 07:54 AM

what do you get with a donor kit and how much is it

tony

EasyJimbo - 21/4/09 at 09:22 AM

Tony
I assume its all the parts listed on the MK site (donor parts list) that are required from the sierra. MK used to sell this for 350 but its 450 now as it is getting harder to source. I have an issue with space for having another car on my drive so decided to get the bits from MK instead.
J

Nash - 21/4/09 at 07:15 PM

Hi Easyjimbo.

I buy all my fastenings from a specialist shop. I also standardise to one or two sizes where possible. This makes assembly & maintenance much easier. M8 and M10 are popular. Always use Nyloc nuts and it can be a pain in the bum but I tend to use one length and cut to size. I also use set screws where possible as apose to bolts (a set screw hs the thread running all the way up the shank whereas a bolt has a fixed shank). You can't always get away with this as some people believe the set screw is inherently weaker. I track day a lot and I used to race 250E superkarts and never had a fastener failure in 10 years of racing. Believe me a 250E Superkart is an extreme testbed for finding weaknesses in the build. Keeping the fasteners to a minimun / optimum spec allows me to buy in bulk and I get a keen price.

Material HTS (High Tensile Steel) should cope with all loads. Be careful on mixing alloy items with some bolt types as you can get oxidising (battery effect) if you mix some disimilar metals and you end up having to deal with seized fasteners.

HTH........... Neil