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sabb 2.3 turbo in mk
gordon h - 14/12/09 at 09:02 PM

hi all just brought sabb 2.3 turbo engine and omega r25 box out of 2.5 v6 to put into my mk. has anyone done this yet and if so what diff are you useing and clutch. many thanks


ReMan - 14/12/09 at 09:03 PM

Time for a change of sig line me thinks?


speedyxjs - 14/12/09 at 09:04 PM

Dont think the diff will matter too much as you will need a custom prop so a sierra diff should be fine.

I think the gearbox has mbeen used before but not sure on the engine. Sounds like a good one though!


flibble - 14/12/09 at 09:23 PM

Hiya, I've used that engine (well, the 2.0, more revs, less torque, thought the box might last longer!) and box, though not in an MK.
Used the standard saab clutch, saab 9-3 conc. slave (you'll need about and inch spacer too),cut sump by an inch or so for ground clearance, home-made loom with standard saab ecu, etc.
Not sure how much difference there is between the 2.0 and 2.3 but mine is damn tall and yours will be slightly more so.

Take a couple of engine piccies so I can compare if you can be bothered!

Any questions, just ask

Kev


ashg - 14/12/09 at 09:26 PM

really like the saab turbo lumps.

im still working out costs for my next engine

possibles are

s2000
2.0/2.3 duratec
2.0 zetec
2.3 saab turbo
2.0 vauxhall lump


all should be plenty of fun but i still working out the costs to put some of these older engines to as new condition.

flibble any picts?

[Edited on 14/12/09 by ashg]


turboben - 14/12/09 at 09:28 PM

Hi mate

You should ask on the PPC magazine forum. They did a feature Saab stuff a few months back. Still wont beat mine tho!


gordon h - 14/12/09 at 09:30 PM

cheers kev, will get some pics and will ask if get stuck but hope to have in by next week.


gordon h - 14/12/09 at 09:38 PM

costs so far complete engine £250, omega box £100, good power for no money, why spend £1000s


ashg - 14/12/09 at 09:40 PM

forged rods pistons and crank drop the compression a little bit and stick 3 bar of boost up it. should make it interesting to drive


flibble - 14/12/09 at 09:49 PM

Forgot to mention, budget a little more than normal for a propshaft, the Omega box is apparantly an odd one to mate up to, BailyMorris and the others all quoted £200+vat (at least), used autoprop-uk in the end, came to £150(ish) including vat and I'm very happy with it.

Rough dimensions:





An early test fit piccie, not many mm to spare on fitting



There was also Jesus-ninja on here who was putting one in a midi I think, and some guy who I've forgotten but used a 2.0 in a westfield I think and made a stunningly clean job of it too (he's sold it now).
Edit: Found it - j30fos was his username



[Edited on 14-12-09 by flibble]


ReMan - 14/12/09 at 10:17 PM

"bec is best but going to try sabb 2.3 turbo mk "

That's better.
BTW did I mention I drive a Saab 2.0T!
So good luck, had thoughts myself, couldd'nt swap though, will have to build another
What do you intend to use for management, presumably not the Saab ecu?


gordon h - 14/12/09 at 10:26 PM

i sold zx9 mk to a french man, got this one last wendsday now in bits, total rebuild, yes am going to use sabb ecu got local company who can remap to 300bhp for just over £100.


welderman - 14/12/09 at 10:31 PM

might be of some use, check out some of Johns other posts after it was finnished.

Looks very good once it was finnished.

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=81254


Joe


GRRR - 14/12/09 at 10:51 PM

will be interesting to see how that gearbox comes out in terms of ease of fitment, I'm doing a Zero with the Saab 2.0 turbo (B204L), type 9 box and a vauxhall to ford bellhousing. Easy on the prop aspect but the T9 may not like the abuse from the turbo!

[Edited on 14/12/09 by GRRR]


flibble - 14/12/09 at 11:10 PM

quote:

will be interesting to see how that gearbox comes out in terms of ease of fitment



Do you mean ease of fitment to the engine? If so, then it's simple, it bolts straight on.


Jonte - 15/12/09 at 07:49 PM

Not a Mk and not 2.3 but a 2.0 with 417hk and 515nm on Rototest

http://www.skoterjocke.com/


GRRR - 15/12/09 at 09:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flibble
quote:

will be interesting to see how that gearbox comes out in terms of ease of fitment



Do you mean ease of fitment to the engine? If so, then it's simple, it bolts straight on.


Sorry I was a bit vague! How do the gear linkages work? The Sierra box is self contained. And size-wise, how does the Omega box compare?


flibble - 15/12/09 at 11:08 PM

I can't back this up with any numbers but I do remember thinking "bloody hell that gearbox looks fat!" when it turned up on my doorstep. I really should have measured it before I put it in the car, its bloody cold outside so dont fancy it now! (+its boxed up in it's little coffin on my driveway )

The Linkage is not as rigidly mounted as the type 9, the gearstick is on the end of a long pivoted shaft coming out above the drive flange, would be quite easy to cut/lengthen and re-weld to move it around a bit, I got lucky and it ended up about 20mm further back than the original was. (replaced a X-flow/2000e).
The gearstick is about a foot tall though, I should get round to shortening it really!

[Edited on 15-12-09 by flibble]