looking at the indy website, and the deluxe price looks good.

Does the Indy deluxe kit contain -everything- you need to finish a car? (+ the bits you strip off the donor, obviously)

if not, what kind of extras are needed?

plus, what model/year sierra is it that would provide all the donor parts necessary?
(ideally i'd want something above 1.6. probably 1.8 minimum.

im looking for donor + Kit = car, with minimal hunting around for extra bits.

thanks!

(edit) oops, wheels and seats seem the most obvious to a noob like me.. though i guess the sierra wheels could be used until its finished and relaced with something nicer

[Edited on 11/3/05 by Dillinger1977]

it largly depends on how you want your car to look and perform and what your budget is.

Sure an Indy with a 2.0 sierra engine in is quicker then the sierra would ever be but its not going to set your world on fire - its not a bad choice for a newbie to se7en style cars though.

I would say the average car engined Indy is put on the road for between 4 and 5K.

Thigs that could be used from the sierra donor but rarely are are as follows

Steering wheel
Clocks
Wheels/tyres
seat belts

To buy aftermatket items to replace the above will set you back a minimum of another £650. So as you can see there is money to be saved but your car will have ...........how can i put it...............a slightly more agricultural look.

The donor is only really good for the engine, wiring, propshaft (needs modifying), brakes, steering rack (needs modifying) front uprights (needs modifying) rear diferential and drive shafts.

The rest are generally bough as aftermarket replacements.

So in summary you can buy a donor and a delux kit and have a car on the road for 3500 quid but it isnt going to win any beauty contests and it wont be setting your pants on fire either.

Or your other option is to buy a donor, scavenge all the required bits from it and buy decent looking and functional aftermarket items to complete the package leaving you with a nice looking car that still aint going to win any prizes in the speed arena with a bog standard un fettled sierra engine, but at least you will be crusing past so everyone can admire your nicely turned out handywork

nice reply, very helpful. thanks!
(nearly spat tea over my keyboard about the 'agricultural' comment!)

There are all different standards finish on this site and im sure all of their respective owners think their own is the muts nuts, its all down to a nice blend of attraction V's Budget, get the balance just right and im sure you will be happy with the results.

Make of it what you want... you are the limiting factor.

i started off thinking i do the whole thing as cheap as poss, and gradully upgrade as time and money allowed, but as im doing it i see a nice set of alloys, or mirrors and cant resist - but thats my prob -im lacking in the self control department.
as soon as you start your build, youll start eyeing up all sorts of things 'i wonder what theyd look like on my car' and if your anything like me, the idea escalates, until it is a necessity.
All the best,
Tom

Not entirely sure about 'agricultural' to sum up standard sierra items.

1: its rear to find seat belts on tractors (even if they had them to start with)

2: Agricultural wheels would be very big (about 38inch diameter) steel wheels not the small steels on a standard car.

3: Regards clocks a typical tractor the same vintage as a sierra would probably have and LCD display and enough other guages to allow things like rpm to be shown in triplicate.

4: tractor steering wheels tend to be no nonsence, apart from the lack of exposed metal, they are more like racing steering wheels rather than standard chuncky road cars wheels.

Its not whether agricultural is any good, its just i'm sure a far more acurated analagy cound be found/used.

i suppose its just a question of aesthetics.
the original question was just 'can a sierra and an indy deluxe kit create a car with nothing else' and thats pretty much been answered.
true, its probably not going to be the prettiest car in the world, or the most powerful, but if it gets through an SVA, i'd be more than happy.

once thats been done, THEN the business of putting shiny things and bigger engines in can start. or have i got my priorities wrong?!

(although im sure Id be like Tom, saying ive got willpower until i see some shiny bits and then spending when i shouldnt be!)

[Edited on 11/3/05 by Dillinger1977]

I see shiny bits and get very tempted at times. There is one sure fast cure, just look at the price. If you can afford it still, then its not shiny enough.

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Originally posted by clbarclay
Not entirely sure about 'agricultural' to sum up standard sierra items.

1: its rear to find seat belts on tractors (even if they had them to start with)

2: Agricultural wheels would be very big (about 38inch diameter) steel wheels not the small steels on a standard car.

3: Regards clocks a typical tractor the same vintage as a sierra would probably have and LCD display and enough other guages to allow things like rpm to be shown in triplicate.

4: tractor steering wheels tend to be no nonsence, apart from the lack of exposed metal, they are more like racing steering wheels rather than standard chuncky road cars wheels.

Its not whether agricultural is any good, its just i'm sure a far more acurated analagy cound be found/used.

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I'll agree with Indy Kid, there is so many hidden costs that all add up. Sometimes it may be a £5 item that gets over looked as at the time its only £5 at the time, but there are quite a few small bits you need.

You can use alot of the donor parts in your build, as snoopy said alot of locosts use the donor clocks. I have seen some very nice ways of using the original sierra dash. Some people make a facia to go over it so you cant see its the sierra dash, but just some dials. If you look at sgraber's site he has used mr2 clocks and arranged them in the way that looks like an aftermarket dash, by using his own custom facia. By the way, i'm not trying to compare steve's car to a locost, his is truely something else!

You have got to remember a few other compulsory bits that you wont find on the donor. For example the exhaust, it would be hard to get an exhaust to fit on a pinto in an indy with out a custom job, MK sell a very nice one, which is what im using, for £300 if it hasn't changed in the last year. It sounded alot to me when i first looked at an exhaust, but for an indy there isnt much else that will fit, and for a custom exhaust you are looking at probably £300 just for the manfold. Unless you build your one, alot of places sell the plates, pipes and collectors, you just have to weld it together. But you look at an indy one and it would be very hard to get the same finish with out bending your own pipes.