Paul Bould has asked me to let you see his amazing V8 install on his Indy which was bike powered but not any more!!

Empty engine bay, note Steering column alteration:


Hydraulic clutch pedal mod:



Mock up engine fitted:




Gearbox:





Final install with the new engine...stunnung!!




Here you can just see the filter...perfect fit! Just the exhausts to go!

Beast

LOvely. I love V8's. Is that a standard chassis and body? Looks it.

Yeah apart from the fact it was a bike chassis, you can still see the brackets for the bike engine frame. Body is std with no cut outs or extra bulges for the engine. Alot of thought went into setting the position of the engine.

Thanks for posting the Piccies Andy. Be interesting to see what people think

Paul

They like it so far!!

It looks great. Just asking weather the chassis is going to get a tie bar across the gearbox using the original bike cradle mounts to stiffen up in the engine bay?

Yes will more than likely do that . will see how it Performs first, a lot of it is unknown territory at the moment. Should be ok though .

That looks like the car was designed around the engine, beautiful

Yes was a squeeze but got it in without any major mods

looking good got through a few toothbrushes doing those rocker covers eh
im putting a stay on the bellhousing on mine to tie the top of the engine to the frame with some spare poly bushes and tubes for a wishbone i had to stop any wibble/wobble from the motor

got a prop with sliding joint for the lt77 by the way

Looks fabulous. However, I'd have concerns about using a BEC chassis for a V8....check it's strong enough (with MK perhaps) before driving and add any necessary crossbracing / triangulation.

Torque-wise, a BEC and V8 are worlds apart, and once the chassis is twisted, it'll stay that way...

Very Nice - another builder that is going to get to know the staff at the local petrol station well.

Bling factor 10 on the engine nice - not my cup of tea but mighty impresive all the same.

Would agree with stevebubs re the bracing - remeber even a 30 year old 3.5 V8 on carbs is quite capable of shifting nearly 2 ton of range rover with ease - though I am sure you are not shifting huge amounts of weight you need to make sure that the car goes like it sounds rather than twisting the chassey.

All the best

Agriv8

I have already done my home work with MK and Mach1 who both said the chassis will take it albeit they did say i would need major chassis mods , but didnt need to make any fits like a glove!! . i will see how it goes once its back from having the exhausts made, then like you say i will brace it to stiffin it up a tad. will be interesting to see how it goes though compared to the blackbird ive got twice the weight now but twice the power should be fun.

Bouldy,

My v8 MNR Vortex is the same - the engine bay could only described as crampt. I Like your thinking about adding the bracing after exhaust.

what engine are you running any mods ? looks a large holly carb you have got fitted there !

regards Agriv8

[Edited on 12/1/06 by Agriv8]

Looks fantastic... What it the power output, just wonder how easy it's going to be to keep it in a straight line with the loud pedal pressed with all the weight up frount...

Agriv8. yeh big ole carb gonna suck up dosh but hey who cares we dont build em for fuel eco do we.

engine is 3.5 with over size race pistons
10.5.1 compression, stage 2 heads with big valves solid lifters and adjustable rods double valve springs. a 248 race cam (6000 to 6800 revs max obviously not continues only quick blats) .
it has all been ported and gas flowed
600 cfm holly carb to supply the juice.
lightened , balanced fly wheel and crank.

Bluemoon, 285BHP according to the figures. and yes will prob have a few probs getting power down , simple remedy is start off in 2nd , you dont need 1st so much torque no need to light the tyres up in 1st. a lot of the weight is in the gear box so quite a bit of weight is in the middle. the v8 is only a few ks heavier than a pinto.

had another look at the pics ,are those pinto engine mount rubbers on it?
might be worth using the standard rover ones as i used pinto round type in an old avenger years ago and thedrivers side kept failing, the rover type are a much better design

285? id be more than happy if that spec topped 240 peak!

yeh they were only used to mount dummy block have a lot more heavy duty on there now the proper engine is in. reel steel quoted those figures with what i have done so only going by that. i am having it rolling road tested once its on the road so be interesting to see what they say it is at the wheels. even if it does come out a 240 still plenie of umph

have you got a prop for it yet then?
dont think you will use 1st gear aparrt from parking
last car i had an rv8 in had a 3.9 diff and 15" wheels on 195/50s and i could pull off in 3rd with no probs. thats the bugbear with the rover you really need a 3.08 or maybe even taller to cruise comfortably
mine is now using 3.62 diff on 15" wheels and i know il be reaching for another gear at 60mph!

yeh have had a prop made. dont tell me you got one for sale!!!! . yeh will prob change the diff once i get a feel for everything . its a case of trial and error realy . so have you any pics of yours then?

yep i have got a prop but i think darren s will have it once i tell him.
ive got a 3.15 lsd 7" for sale
my car is coming along like continental drift at the moment but its not the usual mk as its got a slightly different shapes chassis and a reliant kitten bodyshell over it oh and its four wheel drive too
i bought a pair of 3.15 gearsets to run front and rear but it wont work so im having to use standard xr4x4 diffs
once your up and running id start looking for a later front cover with crank driven oil pump if you want to rev it past 5500 and if you need a stating point for setting that holley up have a look on the v8 forum im sure someone else is running a similar set up and will have the right jet/spring combo for you
looks like your ready for the exhausts now, have you had any prices yet as im sure they wont be cheap, as mine wont be seen im using range rover cast manifolds turned round to put the outlets in front of the engine then use the standard 2-1 collector and along the body coming out just in front of the back wheel.
i finally bought a digital camera this crimbo and once ive figured out how to upload il start putting some pics in my archive

Car looks great Andy. I've been running my Indy V8 for a couple of years now - no problems with chassis flex although we did triangulate the chassis sides of the engine bay.

My engine is mounted further back I think as I have a 'footrest' in the footwell to accommodate the starter.

Hope the build continues to go well

[Edited on 12/1/06 by RWDKurt]

Froggy, thanks for the advise i will take a look at the forum once she is back from having the exhausts made.

I have got a right good deal on the exhausts. £450 both sides including cans!! how goods that . i have seen the quality of his work too its good deffo worth £450.

Rwdkurt, have you any piccies ? what engine are you running

£450 for the exhausts is a great price - does that include manifolds? IIRC I paid about double for my SS systems inc manifolds.

I have some pics - tried to upload some to this thread last night but without success. I can send you some direct if you want. The car was in Track and Race Car last November if you want to see some professional shots!

I'm running a 4.0 stiff block with ultra-big valve 'Chessman' heads (from an old SD1 Slick 50 race car). Balanced bottom end but standard rods and pistons. Cam is a DJE special but retains hydraulic lifters. Just converted to bike-carb induction which is fantastic! Not sure on outputs - the car wouldn't stay on the rollers properly for some reason



Give me a shout if you want more info.

Yeh the 450 quid is from the heads to the tail pipe. Bargin

Would be interested to see your motor your the only one i now know who has a indy V8 on the road . you can email me on
paul.bould@goodyear.com

not many of them around . mine used to have a blackbird in it but got fed up of having to thrash the arse of it to make it go.

Some pics on the way mate.

I'm sure you'll enjoy the torque of the V8. My car will pull away in 4th if need be. Haven't tried 5th yet....

Cheers

Kurt

kurt, any info on the carb setup? ive sold the hotwire system and have a weber 500 to use from dje but i like the idea of bike carbs
what did you use for the manifold?
bouldy, where are you and where is the guy doing your exhausts! for that price i could bin the cast manifolds and save some weight! if yours is in 304 thats a f££cking bargain!

Froggy - it's 2 pairs of 4 Yamaha R1 carbs on custom manifolds -one per bank. Steve Bogg of Bogg Brothers near York did the conversion which included a bespoke thermostat housing and breather catch tank. The also set up the car on their RR. They do loads of conversions on 4 cylinder cars but this was their first V8. I have some pics I could forward if you drop me your email.

Total cost of the conversion was a grand - which considering the work done and the end result was pretty good value IMO. Like you I was going for a Weber 500, but by the time you've bought all the bits to make that work and had it set up you're looking at around £700 IIRC. The conversion works superbly - no flat spots - just clean solid power right up to 7K!! Starts and idles well too. Not tested economy though as the car gets very little road use.

That is porn.

Ed.

This is a Bogg Bros instalation:



Or a BMW V12!!!



[Edited on 16/1/06 by donut]

Froggy, sorry about the delay just been skiing for the week.

My car is due back anytime now so i will have a word with the guy about yours ,
Im am based in Telford Shropshire, he is based in West bromwich West mids. He does have a trailer facility to collect cars he just charges fuel!! where are you based? i will send you some pics of exhaust when she is back what is your email address

Paul

bet this pic is too big
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Froggy, I may be being stupid here, but by using an MT75 gearbox and 3.62 diffs you shouldn't have any gear ratio problems as the two are matched. The problem you had before was because the gearbox you probably used was a rover (i assuming here, either LT77 or R380) which didn't neccessarily have the correct ratios in it to suit the 3.62 diffs. A lot of guys that run V8s in Dax Rushes comment about the gearing, but if you used the MT75 box I don't see it as being so much of an issue.

Mike

P.S. Nice project, its just how reliant should have built them.

[Edited on 25/1/06 by quadra]

to be honest ive never compared ratios but im going to have to get the motor to rev well. luckily its a late 3.9 with big main caps so it can be cross bolted and ive got an r1 carb conversion for it so it should pull cleanly to 6000. the hardest part is yet to come as ive got to make the shell hinge up from the rear to keep it in one piece like the funny cars do