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Engin Choice --- Again
mad4x4 - 28/2/03 at 02:21 PM

I have a 1.8CHV and type 9 Gear box lying in bits.

I have also thought about using a nissian Sylvia 1.8 Turbo.

Would the Sylvia fit?

Or any other good quick, cheap choices.

( MK Indy Started Feb 2003)

Andy


auzziejim - 28/2/03 at 02:48 PM

If the Sylvia turbo unit will phsically fit with all its ancills and will mate up to your type 9 box then go for it! its always more fun building something different i suppose!

Also if you are going with the Sylvia route dont forget to talk to Metal Hippy about his 'noone conformist Locost group' thing

James


UncleFista - 28/2/03 at 04:51 PM

The 1.8 CVH is 'tuned' for fuel economy, a lot of parts are unique to the 1.8 (no swapping tuning parts from engine to engine) and so are very difficult to tune.

Not the best engine to start with unless you're not intending to 'tune' it at a later date.


Browser - 28/2/03 at 09:24 PM

I just posted this on the LocostBuilders Engine page in response to a similar query!
'I bought a Citroen BX 16 valve for 150 quid, sscrapped it myself and made about 80 quid on the deal. I haven't sold the gearbox yet either as I'm keeping it to get the crank angle sensor position, so there's a bit more money to be made (I hope). Apparrently the LDV Pilot van uses a 1.9 XU diesel engine (the BX has the alloy XU petrol lump) so for about 40 quid I have a bellhousing which I could bolt to an LT77 but I have obtained a reconned Ford T9 for 50 quid from a mate so this will get slotted in. So, I have a 160-165 ish bhp motor which will rev to 7500rpm plus its wiring loom and ECU for, well nothing or even plus 80 quid, deduct the transmission cost and I'm still 30 quid up, deduct the cost of a bellhousing and it will have cost 10 quid. The XU is all alloy, 16 valve and a modern design. What more could you want?
p.s. I picked up a secong engine/box combo from a local scrappy for 75 quid which I will rebuild, (hopefully) tweak somewhat and install once I have the car built and running with the first engine in it.


mad4x4 - 3/3/03 at 01:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BrowserApparrently the LDV Pilot van uses a 1.9 XU diesel engine (the BX has the alloy XU petrol lump) so for about 40 quid I have a bellhousing which I could bolt to an LT77 but I have obtained a reconned Ford T9 for 50 from a mate so this will get slotted in.


Correct me if I'm wrong, are you saying that by using the LDV Pliot Van Bell-housing on a T9 Gear box it will bolt to the XU engine out of a BX?

Andy


Browser - 3/3/03 at 11:29 PM

Erm, ish! The bellhousing should, I am assured, bolt straight to the engine as the XU petrol and diesels share the same design block, just different materials (ali & cast iron). I will either have to have made or, hopefully make myself an adaptor plate to match the bellhousing to the 'box. I have, as yet, not obtained the bellhousing so I can't say how reliable this is. Does anyone know of a commercial vehicle breaker who has or specialises in LDV vehicles?


mad4x4 - 4/3/03 at 11:09 PM

Sound Like a Plan....

I think I have found a 1.9 BX GTI so I may join you on this Idea.



Andy.


Browser - 5/3/03 at 10:37 AM

This sounds good, we can share mistakes! Have you got your kit yet or are you still saving? If you go doen the BX route, get the whole car if you can or, if not, make sure you get the wiring loom, relays, ECU and fuse panel as well, as this makes sorting the engine wiring out a hell of a lot easier. Are you aiming for the 8 valve or 16 valve? I have the 16 but the 8 produces a superb 130bhp in standard trim, is eminently tuneable and, thanks to being all alloy is nice and light. I am goint to try and locate a commercial vehicle breakers so I can look for a bellhousing (or two). If I do manage to I'll let you know.


mad4x4 - 7/3/03 at 07:55 PM

YEs I have my Kit,
I picked it up from MK the first week in January and then sent it to get "Zinga" coated (Cold Galvi Proccess) Then I have spent most of Feb Getting the panels insde the floor wells etc inplace.

Just starting the Front and Rear suspension.

Found that the rod ends for the upper front wishbones wouldn;t screw into the the Wishbones and had to get a friendly Engineering workshop to run a tap through the holes and a die along the thread .

Ps the thread was a 18mmx 0.5 Pitch.


Andy

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DEAN C. - 9/3/03 at 02:09 PM

0.5mm? that must be super,super fine pitch!


Browser - 11/3/03 at 03:23 PM

Just to keep thi sthread going thi schap A Frame Engineering. Telephone 01282 690184. Fax 01282 604844, does adaptor plates and the like and said he woul dbe wiling ot do one for my T9-to-LDV bellhousing job, that is if I can't figure it out myself. He sounds like a good bloke and I don't think he'll charge the earth.


mad4x4 - 14/3/03 at 10:49 PM

Pugeot 405 Mi16 is ment to be the same engine as the Citroen 1.9 GTI.


auzziejim - 15/3/03 at 07:58 AM

there are 2 types of MI16 engine! a 1.9l and a 2.0l! the 2.0l is the newer and more powerful version that also saw action in the 306's and 406's! but the older 1.9l is the same and the citroen i think

James


Browser - 15/3/03 at 11:36 AM

...and I think the newer engine has an iron block, though don't quote me. The 1.9 engine is the same though Ithere may be small detail differences.