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Browser - 24/7/03 at 09:03 PM

I was just wanting to count my chickens a little i.e. work out the power-to-weight ration of a car I haven't even begun to build yet and was wondering, on average, how much and MK Indy weighed all up? I will be using a 16v Citroen lump but anything'll do just to give me an idea. Can anyone help?


skippad - 24/7/03 at 11:08 PM

hi
My mk indy weighed in at sva test at 580kgs (Vauxhall xe engine, full tank petrol and me 83kgs).
I tried to be very weight consious when building.


ijohnston99 - 25/7/03 at 11:01 AM

Hi,
Have you found a suitable RWD gearbox for the citreon lump yet?

Just out of interest.

Ian


Browser - 30/7/03 at 07:32 AM

Sorry for the extreme tardiness in replying! I have a Ford type 9 box, I've just gotta find a bellhousing. I keep looking at breakers ads to see if theyr'e scrapping an LDV pilot diesel as I was told this'll do the job but none have turned up yet. I'll maybe have to get onto Sherpa Spares and get a new one. I really must do this soon to ensure I'm not chasing a pipedream and that I will be able to mate one to the other. If the Sherpa solution doesn't work I'll have to get back in touch with th echap I rang at a company called A Frame Engineering who seemed to be OK with the idea of producing a one off for it, obviously more expensive though!


nick205 - 30/7/03 at 11:19 AM

Browser

I'd be very interested to find out how you get on with your Citroen plans. I originally wanted to use a Pug Mi16 engine, but found the same gearbox issues.

Also I think the exhaust manifold & steering rack may clash as the Pug engine is canted over toward the drivers side - is this the same for the Citroen engine installation?

keep us posted on how you get on with it - it's a cracking engine if you can do it!

Cheers

Nick


theconrodkid - 30/7/03 at 04:05 PM

ive done a few engine transplants and usually a 1/4 steel plate with lots of holes cut/drilled does the job as adapter


Rorty - 31/7/03 at 01:37 AM

There is a shroud of mystery hanging over adaptor plates, but I don't know why. There are several methods of making extremely accurate plates (and they need to be).
Some need only be 1/4" thick as the kid says, others need to be thicker/aluminium.
Sometimes you can get away with just replacing the spigot bearing in the end of the crank, and other times you'll need to make up a new input shaft for the 'box. Either way, it's not difficult.
It might take all of 3 hours to do (not including a new input shaft).


Browser - 1/8/03 at 11:58 AM

Oohhhh, he makes it sound sooo easy doesn't he!I'm not averse to the adapter plate idea, it's just that if I can get away with a bellhousing which will (fairly) easily bolt on then I'm gonna do that
R.E. the exhaust manifold yes, the engine is angled in the Citroen as well but I have a sneaky plan to combat this. Due to the exhaust ports all being in a straight horizontal line I intend to cut the flange off the manifold and weld it back on 180 degrees round, which should give plenty of clearance for the steering rack and I hope will clear the top chassis rail. If this plan is a bust I'll have to look at a custom jobbie which will be lots more money so fingers crossed!