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Anyone seen the 'Blast' before?
sgraber - 24/10/05 at 08:00 PM



http://www.blastautomotive.com/index.html

Let me know what you think about this. Be sure to follow the link to see more about it. I think it is interesting that it is a California based project.


Hellfire - 24/10/05 at 08:07 PM

Different but looks a bit "boxy" to me. Lines are too square in my opinion and there aren't enough curves.

I reckon it'll shift though.

[Edited on 24-10-05 by Hellfire]


CommanderAce - 24/10/05 at 08:18 PM

Great Scott! Someone enjoyed using their ruler!


Winston Todge - 24/10/05 at 08:21 PM

Does look like a great bit of design. Not entirely sure about the looks, but it's definitely different...

Also that gearbox seems to stick right out at the back. Would not want to get rear ended and have to buy neew engine... Still, most rear/mid engined setups are like that I guess.

Chris.


_Aero_ - 24/10/05 at 09:55 PM

The Blast seems to have a hidden appeal. It's certainly a quirky style for sure. Not a keen fan myself and that engine/gearbox protrusion truly wrecks any idea that you though it was a thing of beauty.

He needs to return to the drawing board with the rear end.


mangogrooveworkshop - 24/10/05 at 11:00 PM

A Caddy nose with Stealth fighters angular shape with a plucked chickens tail sticking out the rear........


mangogrooveworkshop - 24/10/05 at 11:04 PM

He maybe has found a cheap engine to stick in TADLTD `s car.....Steve what ya think


Rorty - 25/10/05 at 05:26 AM

Quite an interesting car, but the bodywork is absolutely appalling! It has some nice elements, but generally looks like its back is broken and it's sagging in the middle.
The body looks like a light weight skin as used on drag cars; there are no returns on any of the openings which make it look fragile and flimsy (which in reality, it probably is).
The technical quality of the 'glass is, as he acknowledges, not the best either.
Graber's and Alan B's efforts really put it to shame.
Now there's a name for a car company - Graber & Bertwhistle.


RallyHarry - 25/10/05 at 06:58 AM

There must be thousands of design students that need some lowprofile experience to cut their teeth. Why not use them ?
Guess the welder/mechanic guy is afraid of meeting a academic artsy type of guy ...

Cheers.

[Edited on 25/10/05 by RallyHarry]


James - 25/10/05 at 08:08 AM

I like it aesthetically- it's growing on me the more I look at it.
What a shame about the rear/gearbox business though!

Cheers,
James


Fred W B - 25/10/05 at 08:40 AM

Quote from the website:

"After 4 years of full-time work , I finally drove BLAST for the first time."

Unquote

So us part-timers don't need to feel bad about how long our projects are taking



Cheers

Fred WB


Tudor (Ted) Miron - 25/10/05 at 11:41 AM

Now this is VERY INTERESTING!
I never knew that subaru had a 2WD transaxle! Nice to have some kind of alternative to Audi.
Does any one have more information about this box? What subaru models it was used on, gear ratios, weight/dimensions, Diff/LSD etc. etc?

Thank You
Ted


akumabito - 25/10/05 at 12:35 PM

The front:
Needs a lot more attention to detail. It's too plain right now, even bordering on the ugly. Looks like a flat sheet of plastic with some holes cut it. Hmm, guess what.. it IS a flat piece of plastic with holes cut in! The windshield looks too tall. I guess any lower than that and it woldn't be functional, but it's not pretty..

The back:
I like it! It's kindof a buggy-look I guess. I can't really complain about it.. the engine/gearbox cold use some detailing to make it look prettier, but that's about it.

The sides:
Kindof ugly, but ugly can be pretty sometimes.. (hey, buggies are hardly a thing of beauty either, and everyone loves 'm) The sides just look weir though.. skinny at the top and all fat down below... the doors are just plain ghetto. I don't like those at all! Would be way cooler if they could sink into the bodywork, like that onze BMW (Z1 I believe?) maybe using the mechanism from electric windows? (wow, that's actually a pretty cool idea! Note to self: remember that one...)


ditchlewis - 25/10/05 at 12:42 PM

Different

not something i would want, but an easy fibre glass buck to make, very few curves to make symetrical.

ditch


Peteff - 25/10/05 at 01:13 PM

Why not just make another box and stick it over the gearbox at the rear to finish it off. It looks like a home made car, which is what it is really.


sgraber - 25/10/05 at 02:04 PM

Some months ago we attacked the 'Attack' for lack of front suspension travel. Anyone notice here how there seems to be more or less 5cm of front wheel travel? Surely it's sitting in a lowered position for it's beauty shots?

Aside from that, I for one can say from personal experience how difficult it is to pull off a complete car. (Hell I'm not even finished!) I have to give massive props to the builder of this car. I really like almost all of it, the concept is sound, the interior is spartan, just as I like it. Excellent choice in poweplant. Overall a good effort. The bodywork is probably the main area that will generate comments. It's polarizing. Either love it or hate it type of styling. Don't think I could live with it... But that's why I'm building my own.


kb58 - 25/10/05 at 02:14 PM

They don't as far as I know. I believe they just don't use the driveshaft that would have gone to the rear axle. It's easy to find out more info on the engines, just Google it.

The use of the Subaru isn't new, there's a car out of Australia that using the same setup.


quote:
Originally posted by Tudor (Ted) Miron
Now this is VERY INTERESTING!
I never knew that subaru had a 2WD transaxle! Nice to have some kind of alternative to Audi.
Does any one have more information about this box? What subaru models it was used on, gear ratios, weight/dimensions, Diff/LSD etc. etc?

Thank You
Ted


[Edited on 10/25/05 by kb58]


Tudor (Ted) Miron - 25/10/05 at 02:30 PM

Thanks mate,
I'm aware of saker car that is using subaru power. How ever this is not my piece of cake - for same reason that they stoped using it in F1 in 70's - it's too wide and hampering underbody aerodynamics. Simple simulation will show you that performance gains from lower CG (by very little actually) are much less than could be gained from decent aero.

As for gearbox - it's clearly stated on specification page that this is from 2WD subaru. Hmmm....

Thanks
Ted

[Edited on 25/10/05 by Tudor (Ted) Miron]


macspeedy - 25/10/05 at 03:58 PM

just asked him, which subaru he got the box from, seemed like a good idea awating a response, will keep you posted


gutball - 25/10/05 at 05:06 PM

Definately growing on me. Thought it was a bit of a fugly beast at first, quite liking it now! Be interesting to see it in the flesh. Cool doors! How simple could doors be!?!

On the specs page he says the donor is a Subaru Wagon which I believe is one of these...



You've got to admit its an improvement on that! Although maybe not quite so practical


Spyderman - 25/10/05 at 05:42 PM

I like the simplicity of the design.

It wouldn't take much fabrication to make a cover for the gearbox without altering it's looks too much.

The only thing I am uncomfortable with is the change in design from side to front. There is a nice flowing line from rear to front that stops at the windscreen. The same angle should therefore be used from screen forward. It is the front wing/fender area that is wrong.
The front clip looks like it is from a different vehicle.

Otherwise a nice car!

Terry


Sven - 25/10/05 at 05:55 PM

Love the idea ... wondered about using a Subaru motor in the rear myself. I understand the transaxle for the 4WD Subaru can have the RWD driveshaft removed, place the whole gubbins in the back and it becomes mid engined.

In terms of aesthetics, though, I have to put myself on the side of the nay's. I like the lightweight and spartan look, but the roll bars look they'd take a chunk out of ones head and the windshield is just ugly. I don't really mind angular shapes on cars but this one just isn't working for me.

-Steve

[Edited on 10/25/2005 by Sven]


RazMan - 25/10/05 at 09:54 PM

I'm afraid I must give it the thumbs down too. It is certainly a brave design but a little too quirky for my taste. The windscreen looks like it doesn't belong and neither do the headlights ..... and even the gearbox.

I'd like to see the Mk2 though


andygtt - 26/10/05 at 04:49 AM

To me it looks to me as if each aspect has been developed individually and not as a whole......

Saying that a lot of cars that look awquard and a little visually challenged IMO selll extremelly well as they are priced effectivelly and perform well.


RallyHarry - 26/10/05 at 10:19 AM

windscreen:
He did write that he didn't want to be buffed around by the wind at high speeds ... but using a windscreen from a SUV
Will act like a mousetrap if roll over, reaching all the way back to the rollbar.

Subaru engine:
Yes, there are 2wd subarus, mostly older ones ...

Cheers


macspeedy - 28/10/05 at 11:39 AM

I think we where right he says

" The gearbox is a 2wd from around 1988 "


Ratman - 4/11/05 at 01:15 AM

Subaru 2wd gearboxes..

Answering a question asked a page or two back... I think there are 2wd boxes for Subaru's of all ages. Here in NZ they turn up regularly at wreckers.. there were two (from diferent models) at out local last time I was up there.. NZ$77 (UKP 26) each (pull them out yourself). I was considering them as an option for a VW midi.. similar size, similar overall ratio. Big advantage they have is that the earlier model has the handbrake working in the front wheels, so this is great for a midi build. Odd stud pattern though, on that model (wide 4) . Brian


Mark Allanson - 4/11/05 at 08:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by James
I like it aesthetically- it's growing on me the more I look at it.
What a shame about the rear/gearbox business though!

Cheers,
James



Same here James,

I think it needs a transverse motor and a venetian blind to cover the hole!