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How easy is it to steal a transit van
woodster - 14/12/10 at 03:32 PM

What a day at work , we are building a new carpark ,today some scum bag drove on under the CCTV and nicked one of the guys brand new transit vans. The van was parked up with 50 other cars on our old car park , the guy that owned it had left it open as he was only working a couple of hundred yards away. The keys were in it but hidden away as were his house keys and wallet including bank cards plus a couple of letters with his address on ...... I know and he does now he should have locked it ............ My question is is it really that easy to steal a transit van ? I can't see how they could of known the keys were in it and they were very well hidden. How quick can you start one without the keys. To be fair to the old bill they came down within 30mins.


marcjagman - 14/12/10 at 03:34 PM

How easy is it to steal a Transit? Two words come to mind.........VERY EASY.


nick205 - 14/12/10 at 03:37 PM

Not sure on a Transit, but a lot of new vehicles only have to have the coded key fob within range to deactivate the immobiliser etc. Does the dash have some indicator to show it's activated or not - could be they realised it wasn't activated and managed to hot wire it and have away?

Assume the guy is now changing his house security and cancelling all cards etc?


NS Dev - 14/12/10 at 03:46 PM

they probably watched and saw where he put the keys, will almost certainly be some of our travelling tarmac laying friends, they are experts with any transit!


mookaloid - 14/12/10 at 03:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
they probably watched and saw where he put the keys, will almost certainly be some of our travelling tarmac laying friends, they are experts with any transit!


Yep / /


woodster - 14/12/10 at 03:52 PM

House locks have been changed and bank cards canceled .... We had a look on the CCTV and it took them 2mins, they drove in 2of them in a y reg astra van they were dressed in high vis coats ..... It just seemed so easy £14000 van gone and I guess not insured if the keys were in it :


woodster - 14/12/10 at 03:52 PM

House locks have been changed and bank cards canceled .... We had a look on the CCTV and it took them 2mins, they drove in 2of them in a y reg astra van they were dressed in high vis coats ..... It just seemed so easy £14000 van gone and I guess not insured if the keys were in it :


woodster - 14/12/10 at 03:59 PM

I think it was gypos ..... bastards ... The thing is the car park is at the back of the factory on a one way system not open to the public so they did well to spot the van.


rallyingden - 14/12/10 at 04:19 PM

He can forget any insurance claim if he left the keys in, hidden or not. To be honest it serves him right.
You can't trust anyone these days. A shame the world has come to this.

RD


Davegtst - 14/12/10 at 04:28 PM

When i was in the AA i did no end of lock outs where people had locked their keys in the car. Transits could be broken into fairly easily but i don't know of any quick way at all to start one up without the key. Nearly all cars and vans now have transponder type immobilisers built into the keys.


CRAIGR - 14/12/10 at 04:32 PM

I would delete this thread and cctv evidence and tell the insurance company it was locked if i were him.

[Edited on 14/12/10 by CRAIGR]


T66 - 14/12/10 at 04:35 PM

Many moons ago, a local working mens club was visited by two men - both were wearing dustcoats and indicated they were there to replace the Plasma screen & projector system.

It was dismantled while the old men drank their ale, and placed in the van outside. Staff were told it would be replaced the following day as the system had been upgraded free of charge.


Winessed by 15-20 people drinking, and three members of staff.



If your balls are brassy enough, anything can be stolen - Yellow coats are often used to look the part.



Hide everything, never trust anyone, lock everything, and if you ever find someone in your back garden who asks when confronted for a glass of water, hit him !! You are about to be robbed.


mangogrooveworkshop - 14/12/10 at 05:16 PM

To get in to a transit it took me 4 mins without doing any damage....and that was into the locked back section where i had dropped my keys in a nice wet high vis jacket.

we often have to run the engine to keep the power invertor alive and i lock the van but if they wanted it they will take it anyway. we lock the van with another key.
im going to put a chain on the steering and clutch for the new years welding practice......

pikeys use transits because they are very common.

all the lads in an area had the spare wheels taken from under the wagons in a week.
some were done during the day when they were inside the customers houses


zetec mike - 14/12/10 at 06:20 PM

Very difficult to start pretty well all modern vehicles without the key these days, they must have found the keys.


zetec mike - 14/12/10 at 06:20 PM

Very difficult to start pretty well all modern vehicles without the key these days, they must have found the keys.


sonic - 14/12/10 at 06:59 PM

Don't tell the insurance the keys were in it!
Its a works van one set got lost a while ago and you have the spare set which you are using in your posession.assuming he has the spares


Liam - 14/12/10 at 07:14 PM

Definately found the keys. All the hotwiring and immobiliser hacking in the world doesn't disengage the steering lock. I've tried to break one of those buggers before - it aint as easy as in the movies!

As above, assuming he has a spare set, I wouldn't be telling the insurance company the keys were in there!!


JoelP - 14/12/10 at 08:01 PM

id be suspicious myself, sounds very lucky that pikeys just happened to find the keys. Anyone on site you dont trust~?

I got robbed this morning by pikeys, noticed my sawhorses had gone awol. And my jack didnt turn up under the snow, so im guessing they had that too a few weeks back.


billy - 14/12/10 at 08:03 PM

I wouldnt recomend any type of insurance fraud! its not worth it and they aint stupid, as people say its imposible to have driven away without keys. Bad luck on him tho, i do feel for him as a fellow construction/van driver


Danozeman - 14/12/10 at 08:45 PM

It will never be found so how they gonna know it had the keys in it?? Ford barrels can easily be drilled so if the keys were still in range of the transponder ring they could have started it.

But were they trying to nick it? or rifling through it and came accross the keys?


beaver34 - 14/12/10 at 08:58 PM

why leave the key in it?!!!!



thieves are not daft, we had a van taken from inside our warehouse that was being loaded had 50k of car part in it and that had been watched and stolen

we got it back though it it was left parked up to see if it had a tracker on it in a nearby housing estate


woodster - 15/12/10 at 08:05 AM

the cctv showed the reg of the van they came in, which i've been told this morning was traced to the local pikey camp .... they must have it hidden to see if its trackered


NS Dev - 15/12/10 at 12:23 PM

I'm afraid its all down to having major balls and, dare I say it, being a bit of a nutter now. The ONLY people I know in our area who have taken on the travellers and won have just taken the battle directly to them. Unfortunately, due to it being very unlikely to get a conviction, I doubt he'll get far with the police. Basically, watch out for the van on the site, and find out where any other local sites are. They usually either just swap the plates and use the van, or break it for spares and fire the remnants, in either case it will be on a travellers site somewhere not too far away.

Once you find it, get a LOT of people together, get the spare key and go fetch, preferably with a couple of heavy vehicles with you, if you possibly can, get a JCB. If you go in ready, its unlikely they will do much to stop you. A plant hire chap local to us got all his crews together, warned the police of what he was about to do (they said that for them to go in they needed a warrant and that they could not get a warrant without evidence that his kit was in there) and did exactly that.

Prob shouldn't put it up on here, but a chap I know lost the plot totally with them, and just went nuts, low loadered a Cat D8 into the (illegal) camp and flattened several caravans and cars. Strangely he's had no problems since.............Not sure I'd want to do that though


woodster - 15/12/10 at 07:16 PM

Good news we got the van back, the police found it in a street near the pikey site Sadly the tools out of the back had gone and the alloys had been changed for some shitty old wheels but we got the van back. A big well done to the police who didn't give up. Whilst the plain clothes copper who found the van was radioing in to report his find, who should come round the corner in another transit, yes, 3 pikeys. They ran off leaving their transit which is now in police care the pikey site was visited by a few coppers this afternoon, I won't know until tomorrow morning if they found anything.


McLannahan - 15/12/10 at 07:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by woodster
Good news we got the van back, the police found it in a street near the pikey site Sadly the tools out of the back had gone and the alloys had been changed for some shitty old wheels but we got the van back. A big well done to the police who didn't give up. Whilst the plain clothes copper who found the van was radioing in to report his find, who should come round the corner in another transit, yes, 3 pikeys. They ran off leaving their transit which is now in police care the pikey site was visited by a few coppers this afternoon, I won't know until tomorrow morning if they found anything.


Great result! Bet he's so relieved but a shame about the tools. He'll have to find a better place for the keys now!


NS Dev - 16/12/10 at 08:45 AM

I retract what I said about police not normally touching the pikeys!! Well done!!


Liam - 17/12/10 at 06:23 PM

WOW!!

If I was PM, pikeys would be considered invaders and the army would deal with them . But nice to see the boys in blue not too scared to do something - go police!!

Good result

[Edited on 17/12/10 by Liam]


woodster - 17/12/10 at 08:04 PM

Just a quick update, the police went down to the pikey site, they searched any vehicle they found looking for the tools out of our van but no luck .. The pikeys were going nuts saying the police were out of order ...... Any way they were told if they didn't return the stihl saws that were nicked the transit the police impounded was going to be crushed ....... Even if the saws are returned the van gets crushed but don't tell the pikeys


Liam - 17/12/10 at 08:34 PM

Wow - where do you live? I wanna live there too - your police have some balls and dedication to duty. Good job!


Ninehigh - 17/12/10 at 09:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
Prob shouldn't put it up on here, but a chap I know lost the plot totally with them, and just went nuts, low loadered a Cat D8 into the (illegal) camp and flattened several caravans and cars. Strangely he's had no problems since.............Not sure I'd want to do that though


Why not? That's pikey Courtroom practice for you!

Oh and as for Transits, iirc you can do it with a screwdriver and small hammer

[Edited on 17/12/10 by Ninehigh]