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mookaloid - 17/9/13 at 01:00 PM

One of my friends has a problem with her neighbour.

The neighbour lets her dog out of the house every morning which promptly goes into my friends garden and has a dump on the lawn.

Environmental health are not interested because it isn't noise nuisance and the dog warden is not interested because it is private land.

Is there any legal remedy available to her to make the neighbour stop the dog doing this?

Thanks

Mark


slingshot2000 - 17/9/13 at 01:11 PM

Yes,
pick it up with a shovel and post it straight through her letterbox. Worked when we had the same problem with a neighbours dog, only had to do it twice. Dog never shat on our lawn again.

Regards
Jon


r1_pete - 17/9/13 at 01:11 PM

I don't think so.

I had a similar problem, did post in another thread a few weeks ago, I threatened to put the parcel through the owners letterbox, he thougt I was joking, untill he returned to find the little gift on his welcome mat.

Never let his dog anywhere near my house again.


r1_pete - 17/9/13 at 01:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by slingshot2000
Yes,
pick it up with a shovel and post it straight through her letterbox. Worked when we had the same problem with a neighbours dog, only had to do it twice. Dog never shat on our lawn again.

Regards
Jon


Touche'


daveb666 - 17/9/13 at 01:23 PM

Regardless of where the poo came from you could, potentially, get charged with vandalism for posting poo through someone's letter-box.

A better course of action would be to place it on the doorstep instead.


scootz - 17/9/13 at 01:44 PM

Jim Carrey had the same problem in Me, Myself and Irene.

Do what he did... stroll onto your neighbours garden, drop your kecks and curl one off on their lawn. They should get the idea pretty soon!


CRAIGR - 17/9/13 at 01:53 PM

Trowel it up and slip it up under the door handles on his car.


JoelP - 17/9/13 at 02:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by daveb666
Regardless of where the poo came from you could, potentially, get charged with vandalism for posting poo through someone's letter-box.

A better course of action would be to place it on the doorstep instead.


Would be difficult for them to prove though! Police come round, 'we think you put dog shite through your neighbours door.'

'Sorry, I don't have a dog.' Close door.


daveb666 - 17/9/13 at 02:41 PM

Also might be worth actually speaking to "the neighbour", they may not be aware of where there dog is going.


Neadles - 17/9/13 at 02:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Jim Carrey had the same problem in Me, Myself and Irene.

Do what he did... stroll onto your neighbours garden, drop your kecks and curl one off on their lawn. They should get the idea pretty soon!


I was thinking exactly the same think!!!


owelly - 17/9/13 at 02:52 PM

The dog eggs belong to them so just return it. Scoop it up with a shovel and sling it back onto their property. Ideally with a big splatter onto the door step or path. Also consider doing it so they may trample in it.....


mookaloid - 17/9/13 at 02:54 PM

I was wondering if she could also bill them for her time spent cleaning it up?


Theshed - 17/9/13 at 02:57 PM

Yes there is a legal remedy. It is both a trespass and "nuisance" in the technical sense both species of Tort. Oddly enough there is a distinction between dogs and cats (cats being considered wild animals).

Litigation between neighbours is a last resort. Knock on the door and a cup of tea a far better way of sorting out problems


Daddylonglegs - 17/9/13 at 02:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CRAIGR
Trowel it up and slip it up under the door handles on his car.


Even better, shovel it up their exhaust, should smell wonderful after a few minutes . Failing that, just hoick it over the fence into their garden "just returning what is yours" After all, if you trim the neighbor's trees/bushes hanging over into your property you are obliged to put it over their fence by law.


Smoking Frog - 17/9/13 at 03:05 PM

Good fences make good neighbours!


nick205 - 17/9/13 at 03:07 PM

I take it there's no fence and/or gate to stop the dog?

A friendly chat has to be the start point. If it doesn't work you have at least started on the right foot before resorting to the letterbox!

My father-in-law used to suffer this with his neighbours cats. His remedy comprised a black widow catapult and a flower pot of new potatoes. The cat took several strikes before it learnt the rules, but did move on.

We also had a neighbours tom cat peeing on our garage door (we have a spayed female), which stank something terrible. Eventually I left the cat flap open on the IN only setting and cornered the tom in the garage. He got a proper soaking before being released


James - 17/9/13 at 04:22 PM

My hop-up BB gun is perfect for the neighbour's Westie when I catch it cocking it's leg in my garden!

I feel no guilt about this as I basically detest dogs.


steve m - 17/9/13 at 05:19 PM

I've done the shovel in the letterbox, and the little runts were never let out again


designer - 17/9/13 at 05:51 PM

Why not just get a solicitor's free consultation and get proper advise. I once did and used what he said to win my case.


Brett Jones - 17/9/13 at 05:51 PM

In South Africa this is common problem and the trick we use was to fill up a one or two 2l plastic coke bottles with water. With the labels removed and place on the lawn don't ask me how it works but it does. It a cheap solution and worth trying.


coyoteboy - 17/9/13 at 06:06 PM

Makes your garden look like a litter filled mess too!

Personally I'd just chuck it back onto their drive until they got the hint. If they're letting their dogs out off the lead to run in the street they're not the kind of bright, neighbourly individuals who'll take kindly to "excuse me, you're dog's in my garden". I have a similar problem with local kids and footballs being kicked through my garden and plants and bounced off my cars up the drive. I've come very close to gutting one particular one but befriending him and explaining why it's not very nice worked better in the end, but I'm fairly sure his parents are less intelligent.

As for dogs/cats - I find cats /usually/ go to the loo in the borders and so I don't really mind as much. Dogs just go smack bang in the middle of the grass or the path. That really grinds my gears. I think dog owners are a bit like parents, they generally have absolutely no concept of how irritating their little wonders are to everyone else.

[Edited on 17/9/13 by coyoteboy]


Simon - 17/9/13 at 07:03 PM

Our landlord at work plopped a poo back through a letterbox and the old bill asked him what he thought he was doing.

"Returning lost property" was his response.

I think, dilute in water and spray over their garden. No solid evidence, but one hell of a smell

ATB

Simon


AndyGT - 17/9/13 at 11:34 PM

spread it in the heater vents. on his motor. When it rains and the heater is on...!!!!! Mmmmmm!!!

[Edited on 17/9/13 by AndyGT]


snapper - 18/9/13 at 06:39 AM

You speak to them
If that does not work
You write them a letter
If that does not work
Tell them again your not happy
If that does not work
You place the poo on there front garden
You tell them your unhappy and have returned there property
If that does not work
Poo wrapped up and put that through letter box
If there is any more poo on your lawn tell them you will escalate through formal mediation
It's all about reasonably escalating until the behaviour stops


ashg - 18/9/13 at 07:17 AM

i get our neighbours cat poo and fling it back over the fence with a shovel, bloody stuff stinks and the beggar keeps laying them outside my workshop door.

if you have spoke to them and they are not doing anything about it the other option is to stand at the end of the garden with rubber gloves on and throw it at their front windows


dhutch - 18/9/13 at 07:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by daveb666
Also might be worth actually speaking to "the neighbour", they may not be aware of where there dog is going.

Surprised how little millage this one has got !


Not Anumber - 18/9/13 at 11:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by James
My hop-up BB gun is perfect for the neighbour's Westie when I catch it cocking it's leg in my garden!

I feel no guilt about this as I basically detest dogs.


Not quite how sure you justify that. I hope we never meet.


scudderfish - 18/9/13 at 12:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ashg
i get our neighbours cat poo and fling it back over the fence with a shovel, bloody stuff stinks and the beggar keeps laying them outside my workshop door.

if you have spoke to them and they are not doing anything about it the other option is to stand at the end of the garden with rubber gloves on and throw it at their front windows


The cat will never change it's behaviour if you do that though. Depends how much you like slinging poo I guess. If you want to stop it, throw water at the cat every time you see it (whether it is crimping one off or not). It'll soon learn no to go anywhere near your property.


coyoteboy - 18/9/13 at 12:46 PM

Personally had cats for 20+ years and none of them responded to being sprayed with water when doing something "wrong". They're usually doing the wrong thing for a reason and you need to identify why - it's often because someone or something else is marking that area. Cats do not normally poo on drives or in open grass where they can't bury it.


Peteff - 18/9/13 at 02:15 PM

Get some horse liniment rubbing oil and soak it on some teabags or material and leave it where the cat or dog is dropping you messages. They don't like the smell of it and it does them no harm. Orange peel works for cats as well, it curtailed their activity in our back garden.


02GF74 - 19/9/13 at 07:16 PM

I had an instance of enormous dig tords left at entrance of my drive.

Bought a webcam and used vitamin sw ? to record.

Started recording from 6 am but had to start earlier to catch the culprit who woukd take the dog out at around 4 am.

So i got up early to catch themh in the act and ffolkowed the owner hone.

Provided evidence to council whose dog warden officer spoke to the woman and not had an occurence since.

Ps our council has soecial dog turn scooper up dept that i used so i didnt have to do it plus incidents would be recorded


UncleFista - 19/9/13 at 08:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
quote:
Originally posted by CRAIGR
if you trim the neighbor's trees/bushes hanging over into your property you are obliged to put it over their fence by law.


Not quite, if you trim neighbours trees/bushes from your property, you're obliged to "offer" them back, not dump them over the fence. They are under no obligation to dispose of the cuttings. The law is weird


r1_pete - 18/11/13 at 11:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Brett Jones
In South Africa this is common problem and the trick we use was to fill up a one or two 2l plastic coke bottles with water. With the labels removed and place on the lawn don't ask me how it works but it does. It a cheap solution and worth trying.


I am amazed this does seem to work, we recently started getting parcels dropped off overnight, put a bottle of water on the lawn 10 days or so ago, and nothing since.....