I should not be getting one of these letters as a friend of mine has showed me a great programe called hide IP platinum,
Which hides your ip address so making you un-traceable .... well so i have been told!!!
Shiver me timbers me hearties!
Sounds a load of hype to me, a bit of scare tactics, I don’t believe a word of it, for a start they don’t have the home addresses of users of things like Lime Wire etc as it’s not required, how are they even suppose to know or prove what you have downloaded and saved rather than just listen to. To charge you they would have to have evidence and just how are they meant to do that?? Bet not a single person ever gets taken to court.
They know how much you download
So like every download and upload that is ever made between one computer and another is stored on the service providers system, just imagine the incredible number that would be, it would be in the trillions, I seriously doubt that would even possible. If that was the case then there would be no need for the police to actually seize machines to charge folk. Most if not all people who download inappropriate material from the web are caught by their credit card details and a raid on their house, I don’t think that is going to happen to a teenager downloading some music in their bedroom. Total farce the whole thing.
We had a letter from tiscali a few months back saying there is no download limit but if we kept using as much as we were, they would restrict our service.
The system is simple Mr Whippy, the british phono people go on limewire, utorrent etc looking for people with UK IP addresses sharing files. They go to the ISP providing that IP, tell them that someone using one of their IPs is file sharing and the ISP sends you a letter on behalf of the british phono people threatening legal action etc etc...
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Originally posted by BenB
The system is simple Mr Whippy, the british phono people go on limewire, utorrent etc looking for people with UK IP addresses sharing files. They go to the ISP providing that IP, tell them that someone using one of their IPs is file sharing and the ISP sends you a letter on behalf of the british phono people threatening legal action etc etc...
he he Well it's already happening, there has been a case of a young girl who got hammered for donwloading/sharing music.
The reason that people have got away with it up until now is that nobody was really gunning for them, this has now changed, and companies want their
justifiable revenue from their products, and are using whatever means possible to acheive their goals, in the same way that users have been flipping
between share sights to avoid capture.
It's just the way it is, I personally don't see what the big issue is, if you don't believe the authorities can do what they say they
can do feel free to continue, but don't whine when you get the letter inviting you to expain your actions in a court of law.
Oh Dear ,
I should not be getting one of these letters as a friend of mine has showed me a great programe called hide IP platinum,
Which hides your ip address so making you un-traceable .... well so i have been told!!!
But 1 problem is if you own the original then your allowed a "back-up" copy or to rip them for mp3 players etc etc
so if like us its quicker easier and less hassle to download a backup to stick onto the mp3 player rather than hunt out the cd when we want to listen
to it. in that case we're not breaking the law so will be penalised for using a service we pay for????
2 of the mentioned isp provide a freeservice as well as paying customers so obviously its in their interests to slow down usage and carphone warehouse
doesnt let torrent programs work proplerly anyway.
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Originally posted by BenB
The system is simple Mr Whippy, the british phono people go on limewire, utorrent etc looking for people with UK IP addresses sharing files. They go to the ISP providing that IP, tell them that someone using one of their IPs is file sharing and the ISP sends you a letter on behalf of the british phono people threatening legal action etc etc...
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Originally posted by johnston
But 1 problem is if you own the original then your allowed a "back-up" copy or to rip them for mp3 players etc etc
quote:
Originally posted by johnston
But 1 problem is if you own the original then your allowed a "back-up" copy or to rip them for mp3 players etc etc
so if like us its quicker easier and less hassle to download a backup to stick onto the mp3 player rather than hunt out the cd when we want to listen to it. in that case we're not breaking the law so will be penalised for using a service we pay for????
2 of the mentioned isp provide a freeservice as well as paying customers so obviously its in their interests to slow down usage and carphone warehouse doesnt let torrent programs work proplerly anyway.
I do really hate the way the poor music industry obviously multiplies the number of songs downloaded by some cost-per-song figure (i.e. 1/10 of a CD
or whatever), then claims that is the figure 'stolen' from them, taking food off their tables etc etc. Bless them - brings a lump to my
throat. Or at least it might if they weren't making the ludicrous assumption that every song illegally downloaded would have been purchased if
the facility to illegally download didn't exist.
I for one use downloading programs mostly to sample stuff I'm interested in finding out about, downloading random single tracks, some old albums
etc etc. This often leads to me purchasing stuff I might not have done otherwise (though often second hand from amazon). I simply wouldn't do
this if downloading for free wasn't an option - i certainly wouldn't increase my spending on music. The poor, suffering record industry has
almost certainly made money from me as a direct result of illegal downloading, and I expect i'm a fairly typical user.
Similarly people who habitually download every new release will simply find a new hobby if that is made impossible - they certainly wont be rushing
out and spending half their wages on music. The claimed 'cost' of illegal downloading is pretty much a figment of their imagination. In
reality illegal sharing is just a subculture that exists alongside the music industry and does it no real harm. The record industry would probably
benefit if they realised that and stopped wasting money trying to fight it. They're just enjoying playing the victim too much.
Liam
[Edited on 24/7/08 by Liam]
As long as they stick to music and away from films, I'll be fine. 