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Which engine is this ??
romer - 12/2/06 at 09:20 PM

Anyone any idea if this is a K Series or Honda engine. The car is a rover.

Cheers

ps hope the photo's attached.

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Danozeman - 12/2/06 at 09:26 PM

Deffo K series mate.

Honda are mounted arse about face and look completely different.


flak monkey - 12/2/06 at 10:36 PM

Yep, definately K-series.


romer - 12/2/06 at 11:33 PM

Cheers for that guys - much appreciated.


locost_bryan - 13/2/06 at 03:33 AM

ok clever clogs, what capacity, what's it in, and what date was it manafactured?


britishtrident - 13/2/06 at 07:42 AM

Build date is between 96 amd 98 K16 Mpi
Rover new shape 200/400
One thing you can't tell is the capacity as 1.4 to 1.8 engines are externally identical when seen from the top. However the plastic throttle body skews he odds toward a 1.4 or 1.6 --- if it has an alloy sump it will be a 1.6 or 1.8.

[Edited on 13/2/06 by britishtrident]


nick205 - 13/2/06 at 08:57 AM

knowledge is power


britishtrident - 13/2/06 at 09:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
knowledge is power


Real trick is telling a 71 ps 1.4 from the 104ps version -- only one difference the throttlebody butterfly only opens halfway on the poverty spec engine.


nick205 - 13/2/06 at 10:05 AM

easy mod for more power then?


MikeR - 13/2/06 at 12:43 PM

you know i was going to do a wee take,

Rover 400, this engine, etc.......


and someone actually did it for real. Guys, we need to get out more!


MikeRJ - 13/2/06 at 02:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
However the plastic throttle body skews he odds toward a 1.4 or 1.6


Thought all the earlier 1.8's shared the same (horrible) plastic throttle body? My brothers '97 Elise has one.


ch1ll1 - 13/2/06 at 03:13 PM

k series
honda engine has gearbox on the other side !


britishtrident - 13/2/06 at 07:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
easy mod for more power then?



To get that you have also to change the throttle cable for a longer one !

An extra honest 33 bhp no other differences even the ECU part numbers are the same ;-)


blueshift - 13/2/06 at 09:53 PM

kind of winds me up that manufacturers do things like that.. deliberately gimp cars. I know why they do it, for mass manufacturing economy, insurable variants etc. but it still annoys.

still, at least with drive-by-wire I'm in the right job to do something about it now if I had a mini one I'd be chuckling (well, apart from the fact that I'd be driving a mini)


britishtrident - 13/2/06 at 11:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
However the plastic throttle body skews he odds toward a 1.4 or 1.6


Thought all the earlier 1.8's shared the same (horrible) plastic throttle body? My brothers '97 Elise has one.


Plastic throttlebody worked fine on the front engined cars but problems started apearing around the time the MGF 1.8 was introduced --- problem was partially extra heat but I also suspect mal-adjustment of the throttle cable was placing excessive force on the body.
MG-Rover changed a lot of plastic throttle bodies on customers cars a service time free of charge even though no problem had been reported.


MikeRJ - 14/2/06 at 11:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Plastic throttlebody worked fine on the front engined cars but problems started apearing around the time the MGF 1.8 was introduced --- problem was partially extra heat but I also suspect mal-adjustment of the throttle cable was placing excessive force on the body.
MG-Rover changed a lot of plastic throttle bodies on customers cars a service time free of charge even though no problem had been reported.


What really kills them is adding aftermarket K&N style filters, the clamp distorts the body and suddenly the car idles at 2000 RPM...


mackie - 20/2/06 at 06:05 PM

I thought the 70-odd BHP 1.4 was infact a single cam engine?

Wikipedia (which could easily be be wrong) state 5 variants of the 1.4:

* SOHC K8 8-valve, Carburettor, 75 hp (55 kW)
* SOHC K8 8-valve, SPI, 75 hp (55 kW)
* SOHC K8 8-valve, MPI, 84 hp (62 kW)
* DOHC K16 16-valve, SPI, 90 hp (66 kW)
* DOHC K16 16-valve, MPI, 103 hp (76 kW)

The difference being different fuelling systems rather than a crippled throttle body.

I know from blueshift that the Mini One engine is basically Cooper engine with the DBW throttle map set to not open the throttle 100% so it does happen but I never thought it to be the case on the K.

I had a 1.4 in my old rover, pretty pokey for it's size (but still quite insurable), it could keep up with blueshift's 2.0 Primera (but I think that was a bit shagged)