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focijohn - 16/12/07 at 06:33 PM

Hi all,
Still deciding what to buy, but more of a problem is the engine + gearbox I have a select few which are:
1) 4AGE 1600 16v or if i can afford it a 20v and bolt a s/c on once ive stopped scaring myself.
2)2.0 Zetec
3)1.8 Zetec
I was originally going to put a 2.0 Zetec in but was "informed" (roughly) the input shaft on the type 9 was too short or long, but i was under the impression that the 1800 and 2.0 zetec's were of the last ford derived engines i.e. same g/box bell housing mounts as on the type 9 box so would it be a case of spacers?

Really any information on any of the above combos and what is needed for the 4AGE to RWD? Still new to the kit car scene so if i'm being think please excuse me.

Ive only recently joined and look quickly so if i'm repeating someone else's topic please forgive.


martin1973 - 16/12/07 at 07:12 PM

zetec will fit on a type 9


Hellfire - 16/12/07 at 07:24 PM

Have you ever been for a ride in a bike engined car (BEC) ??

Phil


focijohn - 16/12/07 at 07:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by martin1973
zetec will fit on a type 9

Is that with the clutch off the zetec?



No I've never been in a BEC


Hellfire - 16/12/07 at 07:35 PM

Try and get a ride in both a BEC and CEC before deciding which engine to install. I'm not saying you'd prefer the BEC but you need to get a ride in one before making your final choice of engine...

Whereabouts in the world are you?

Phil


bonzoronnie - 16/12/07 at 07:41 PM

The thought of a BEC is a little scary for me

I would imagine if I had a ride in one. I would quickly find out ------------

Adrenaline is Brown

Ronnie


Hellfire - 16/12/07 at 07:49 PM

You really NEED to get a ride in one.......

Phil


focijohn - 16/12/07 at 08:04 PM

Its not the speed that i was worried about but the drivability. I live on the Malvern Hills worcestershire and have heard stories of the torque and general user friendlyness, so i hadnt really even thought about it. what are they like on insurance and the cost of installing them?
More of a drivers car. each to their own i suppose.

John

[Edited on 16/12/07 by focijohn]


onzarob - 16/12/07 at 08:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Have you ever been for a ride in a bike engined car (BEC) ??

Phil


Undaunted in the persuit of the BEC

I'm tending toward a 1600 engine, in my mind, then maybe upgrade later. This should give me chance to learn to drive the car without wrapping it around a imovable object.

Also I fancy doing some sprints/hillclimbs and want to be in the right class.



[Edited on 16-12-2007 by onzarob]


bonzoronnie - 16/12/07 at 08:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
You really NEED to get a ride in one.......

Phil


But I know I would be frightened

Ronnie


matt.c - 16/12/07 at 10:17 PM

Boat anchor is always an option?


martin1973 - 16/12/07 at 10:40 PM

yes zetec 1.8 clutch
try search on here lots of info about zetec to type 9

you do need a type nine from an inline engine ie not a v6

the 1.6 cvh is a cheap option tho as well normally come free with sierra donar and gives option of upgrade to zetec as well


Canada EH! - 17/12/07 at 12:29 AM

The 4 AGE is a good unit, the fwd unit requires a T50 Transmission. The bell housing, clutch, and slave cylinder bolt right on. There is a little extra work to plumb the rad. There is a chap in Australia who has done a magnificent job with info on the 4 AGE, he put one in a Ford Anglia


Volvorsport - 17/12/07 at 12:39 AM

volvo volvo volvo volvo volvo
5 cyl 5 cyl 5 cyl 5 cyl 5 cyl


bonzoronnie - 17/12/07 at 09:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
volvo volvo volvo volvo volvo
5 cyl 5 cyl 5 cyl 5 cyl 5 cyl



How could I not agree to that

Top Tip

Ronnie


DarrenW - 17/12/07 at 10:15 AM

You wont often here me say this but Hellfire's advice is well founded. Any car is only fast if you put your foot down and having some potential can be a good thing. I loved my ride in BigRich's car, very surprised at how tractable the Z10 is. Im not converted to BEC but it defo has its uses.


bigrich - 17/12/07 at 10:49 AM

you still holding a torch for my baby mate

I would say think of how you want to use your car 90% of the time ,if this is 2 up trips into the countryside with the missus then a car engine is probably a more sensible option

BUT

If you want the full on ,light weight, high revving experience, and don't mind it being a little less forgiving then a BEC could be the answer. I would seriously recommend a spin out in both before you place an order just so your sure in your own mind

Rich


onzarob - 17/12/07 at 04:16 PM

Both these look like strolls in the countryside



BEC


CEC

HTH

[Edited on 17-12-2007 by onzarob]


focijohn - 19/12/07 at 09:20 PM

Any one live near me that could give me a ride in their BEC please?


onzarob - 19/12/07 at 10:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by focijohn
Any one live near me that could give me a ride in their BEC please?


Me too I'm in Cornwall


locost_bryan - 20/12/07 at 03:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Canada EH!
The 4 AGE is a good unit, the fwd unit requires a T50 Transmission. The bell housing, clutch, and slave cylinder bolt right on. There is a little extra work to plumb the rad. There is a chap in Australia who has done a magnificent job with info on the 4 AGE, he put one in a Ford Anglia


iirc that's Phil Bradshaw from Auckland, New Zealand. He also put one in a Leitch 7.