elf83
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:22 PM |
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mk indy registered as a dutton phaeton??
Hi im new...
Im looking at buying an mk indyblade, after speaking with the very helpful current owner i understand its registered as a dutton phaeton and is on a q
plate. This was done so he could have the car how he wanted it? can anyone here shed some light on this for me. I have searched the forum already but
found nothing.
Thanks!
Oh and can i re register it as an mk??
[Edited on 1/4/11 by elf83]
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scootz
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:28 PM |
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It's called 'ringing' and is done to avoid the SVA/IVA test.
It's illegal, and if found out, then the car is likely to be taken from the owner and destroyed.
Avoid (unless you want to buy it and put it through a fresh IVA).
It's Evolution Baby!
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Yazza54
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:29 PM |
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Theres plenty of Indys out there that are registered properly, wouldn't bother with this one unless it's cheap.
He's basically bought a dutton and used the v5 and chassis number on the MK to avoid sva. Meaning it's never had a proper test other than
MOTs. It may well be road safe but I'd steer clear.
I'm unhappy cos I eat and I eat cos I'm unhappy
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Davg
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:30 PM |
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So basically it's a 'ringer', advice walk away.
You coud set out to registertit properly however you would have to take it apart and rebuild with IVA test and costs.
S'upt to you!
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carpmart
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:39 PM |
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RINGER!!!!!!!!
You only live once - make the most of it!
Radical Clubsport, Kwaker motor
'94 MX5 MK1, 1.8
F10 M5 - 600bhp Daily Hack 
Range Rover Sport - Wife's Car
Mercedes A class - Son's Car
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stevec
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:46 PM |
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How fast can you run?
Steve.
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mookaloid
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:48 PM |
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Glad to see a noobie with a great first question
welcome to the forum - and don't buy the car!
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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steve m
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:49 PM |
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If its cheap and looks ok, i would buy it
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CRAIGR
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:50 PM |
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Still a few k's worth of track car so if its say 2-3k buy it.
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coozer
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 04:50 PM |
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The only legal thing to do is buy it, remove the plates and ID then go through IVA.
Still a risky way to go, so just walk away and find one thats registered properly mate.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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SeaBass
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 05:07 PM |
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It is illegally registered as mentioned to circumvent and IVA.
It is NOT a "Ringer" that is where the ID of a car that is exactly the engine, colour, body etc etc the same is used, that car normally
still existing on the road.
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 05:12 PM |
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And not that different to somebody IVA'ing a car with an old pinto, and then upgrading to a duratec, or indeed many of the other upgrades that
are done without "proper" retesting, apart from MoT. I reckon there are plenty of kitcars that havent got enough "points"
after extensive work.
After all, the chap may have upgraded the car one bit at a time
OK, being pedantic, but it is not as huge an issue as it seems. But it will have an effect of value. A lot by what people think on here. But it is a
kitcar, so if cheap and well buil, it could be good value.
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scootz
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 05:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
And not that different to somebody IVA'ing a car with an old pinto, and then upgrading to a duratec...
It's completely different!
You can legally change the engine in your car... just have to send the details to DVLA along with a letter from the fitter.
It's Evolution Baby!
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macspeedy
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 05:46 PM |
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I can sell you a correctly registered mk zx12 a lot faster than a blade powered machine
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montythemole
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 06:25 PM |
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You can see why this happens. Even MOTd Dutton can be had as cheap as £500, swap the plates and VIN over, and for the cost of the a IVA test (not
including transport, lost days work, retest) you sort of have a car.
1985 Dutton Phaeton Series 3 1300GT
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scootz
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 06:42 PM |
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I'm not just the whole IVA thing...
It's also the prospect of losing it if someone from officialdom shows an interest, or being involved in a bump and the insurance assessor
spotting the obvious and not paying out!
It's Evolution Baby!
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franky
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 06:49 PM |
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IVA's a good thing as the car gets a better going over than at MOT. That car is a 'ringer', if it was properly built why would he
try and dodge the test?
Plenty of good cars out there for sale.
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CRAIGR
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 07:53 PM |
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As said before if its well enough built and its cheap enough it could be iva'd and it still has a good value as a track car .
Shame to lower the tone of a Dutton though and put it on an Mk.
Only joking guys  Flame suit on and ready.
[Edited on 1/4/11 by CRAIGR]
[Edited on 1/4/11 by CRAIGR]
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mark chandler
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 09:34 PM |
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30 years ago lots of kit cars were registered as triumph heralds although it some instances just used the front uprights, its not illegal to own it,
debateble to use it on the road but fine on the track.
I knew someone that ran a MkII escort on a 1968 MKI plate, he used to rally and when he re-shelled DVLA let him keep the reg as all the parts from the
MK1 moved over.
Personally it would not bother me as long as you describe it correctly for insurance, tell them its registered as a dutton but has been rebuilt on a
MK chassis over the years and the car has some providence it could be a cheap way into these cars.
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chrisxr2
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| posted on 1/4/11 at 09:52 PM |
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wooooahhh
by the time the gut has explained tht tto the insurance he is better to buy a properly registered car. Think of the extra however many years of
insurance would be.
Life moves pretty fast, if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
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