indykid
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| posted on 17/11/15 at 10:42 PM |
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Flexi routing with powerlites on Indy
I've finally got round to fitting the powerlites I bought in the 2008 group buy to my 2005 Indy, but I'm not over enamoured with the flexi
routing. I don't remember seeing anyone else mention it, I've done a search and found nothing, so I'd appreciate any comments.
I've made new flexis with 1/8NPT ends to M10 bulkhead fittings, but the flexi runs off the caliper then tight over the cycle wing stay. One side
only rubs with some steering lock, but the other naturally wants to run through the stay. It's now run in spiwrap and cable tied securely to the
wing stay to stop it rubbing, but just wondered if it was a typical issue or if I have some wing stays made at an extreme of tolerance? I presume
it's ok for an MOT attached to the stay?
Being NPT, I can't use banjos or swept fittings, though long term, I'll probably tap the calipers out M10x1 for a cleaner finish or remake
the wing stays when I change wheels. A swept banjo would be ideal, though I'm not desperately happy about using reworked threads on brakes. At
least the threads with the major pitch error would be the smallest diameter though....
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mark chandler
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| posted on 18/11/15 at 12:14 AM |
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You need to put a twist into the flexi to keep it away from things, when you fasten the frame end just twist 30 degrees before fastening the lock nut
to the body.
Also check the height where it's coming off the body, if it's stretching is it at the same height as the caliper end, this may give you a
little more length if fastened at the top, also how far forward affects things as well.
Spiral and cable ties should never be needed if you get it right.
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russbost
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| posted on 18/11/15 at 09:53 AM |
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I'm assuming you have a male/male adapter to convert the NPT thread to m10? Can you not have a 90 degree bent female swivel attached to this
which would then allow you to position the hose anywhere you want, much as a banjo, or would this protrude too far from the caliper & create
problems with clearance?
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indykid
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| posted on 18/11/15 at 12:29 PM |
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I'm happy with general fitment of flexis Mark, I've got twist in them to keep them away from the wishbones on lock, but it's not
physically possible to avoid the MK wing stays lock to lock, hence asking the question specifically of anyone with the same MK setup.
Russ, they're compression ends - I've had too many crimps slip, so no adaptors, just 1/8NPT straight onto 3/8" braided flexi. I
suspect if I ran 1/8NPT to M10 male adaptor then M10 female bent swivel, I'd end up tight on the wing stay anyway and I'm not keen on the
cantilever length of fittings or the number of superfluous joints.
Thanks both for your input though. I'll try get a pic tonight to explain the problem.
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indykid
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| posted on 18/11/15 at 08:44 PM |
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Right, pictures. This is the side that would naturally sit through the tube. The other side sits slightly above, but would always end up touching the
wing stay on left lock.
ETA - the spiwrap is some big stuff I had to hand, not the long term fix, though it would still be spiwrap, just smaller diameter.
[Edited on 18/11/15 by indykid]
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russbost
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| posted on 19/11/15 at 10:05 AM |
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Without having actual dimensions it's impossible to be 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that if you used a male/male adapter & a 90
deg female bend (which would be exactly the same no. of connections if using swaged hose as you have a joint between the union on the end of your hose
& then the join to the braided hose) the bend would come out behind the stay, you could then run the hose alongside the stay for as far as you
want b4 bending away at a convenient point to run back to the chassis
If you stick with the existing arrangement I would suggest get rid of the spiral wrap which looks ugly & amateurish IMHO (not meaning to be rude,
just my opinion) & replace with a neat section of suitable rubber hose which can be split & superglued over the hose at the point where it
passes the stay, if you aren't happy with the security of superglue then add a couple of small neat cable ties for security. Manufacturers use a
very similar method when they have a hose with a potential rub point
Edited to say that looking again at the pics, you could come straight off a male/male adapter with a female with just a 20 or 30 degree or so bend
which you could orient to go straight past the stay
[Edited on 19/11/15 by russbost]
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indykid
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| posted on 19/11/15 at 03:04 PM |
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I agree with you on all the above Russ, aside from a swaged joint not being a joint 
Having had a look at it last night, there would be space for a swept adaptor and it probably is the ideal solution, though I'd still favour a
swept banjo over back to back adaptors. Split hose on the the flexi for the time being does sound like a tidier solution, though the smaller spiral
wrap on it now looks a lot tidier than the big clear stuff.
I'd still really like to hear the experiences of someone with an Indy with these calipers though. I can't be the only one!
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