Neil Kirkpatrick
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 10:16 AM |
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MK Indy Desgin Flaws
Doing a lot of research on which kit to go for if I buy new
A few design Flaws
The rear panel does not fit right alot of posts on here from a year back seem to be that the real panel is too wide and that the panel has a round
trim that meets a square trim.
Has this been sorted yet
Also noticed hat the rear hub carriers arr not pefectly the right sizr when fitting the drive shafts
Is there any more faults that any one can point out
I would be going for the MK Indy R
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nick205
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 10:32 AM |
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Hi Neil,
So far as I'm aware there's no issue with the rear upright to driveshaft fit. However, if building with driveshafts taken from a donor
car with ABS you might need to have the ABS serated ring machined off the outer joint in order to clear the upright - a quick call to MK will
clarify this though.
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Davegtst
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 10:32 AM |
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Do yourself a favor, keep looking. There are many many flaws with mine. The biggest flaw i have found is with the managers attitudes!
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 12:03 PM |
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The Indy bodywork has been revised and reworked to meet the latest IVA requirements, this includes the rear panel where the side panel meets the rear
panel, both are now round. The rear uprights are designed to take standard sierra shafts, if you have the ones with the abs rings fitted these will
need to be removed, a simple job, MK will do this for you free of charge, just take your shafts to them when you collect your kit, Ive built two Indys
over the last few years, a standard one and the Indy R, and would not hesitate to build another, a great bunch of guys down there, and the Indy R is a
great bit of kit
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whitestu
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 02:00 PM |
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I'm with Paul - very happy with my Indy and had no major problems with the guys at MK.
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locostbuyer83
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 02:08 PM |
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My chassis and body don't fit together brilliantly but from what I've heard none of them are perfect.
I think MK are probably good if you can visit their workshop but if your like me and miles away then don't expect anything to arrive in any
sensible time.
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Neil Kirkpatrick
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 02:54 PM |
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Hey guys cheers for the response I am from Northern Ireland
Glad to hear they have the rear panel and side panel fixed..
Ahh i see this is where I have gone wrong with the drive shafts
Because I am from Northern Ireland I hope everything would run smoothly for me.
Too me it seems like one of the best kits on the market. I looked a the GBS Zero but dont knoe if I would fancy the aluminium bodywork
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Davegtst
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 02:58 PM |
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Have a word with noc231073, he's in NI too.
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Alfa145
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 03:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Neil Kirkpatrick
I looked a the GBS Zero but dont knoe if I would fancy the aluminium bodywork
You can get it with stainless panels instead of the aluminium, presumably extra cost. Or like someone else has done, they've Vinyl wrapped the
ally so its not a problem.
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Neil Kirkpatrick
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 03:01 PM |
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Cheers I will do what other Flaws did you find with your car.
Hopefully the manager was just on a bad day
Would you recommend the the MK Indy R
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Neil Kirkpatrick
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 03:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alfa145
quote:
Originally posted by Neil Kirkpatrick
I looked a the GBS Zero but dont knoe if I would fancy the aluminium bodywork
You can get it with stainless panels instead of the aluminium, presumably extra cost. Or like someone else has done, they've Vinyl wrapped the
ally so its not a problem.
I prefere the car to be one colour though and painting it is another added extra cost, I just dont like the look of the stainless steel and aluminium
panels. Painting it would make the cost higher, fibre glass is far easier worked with
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ashg
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 04:10 PM |
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it depends what you want the car to do. but if it was me and i was looking for something with ultimate ability i would be visiting procomp, raw, or
mnr. all of their cars have been designed well and improved through some serious track abuse. there are lots of other great cars and manufactures
out there but those are the three that stand out to me
in regards to the indy/r etc etc yes it has a couple of flaws most of which would only show up if you were a very good on track driver.
as for building one its the same as many other kit cars. you will find little niggles etc but that is just the nature of what you are trying to do,
and that is why locost builders exists. remember you wont be on your own just ask and 99.99999999*% of the time someone will offer some form of help.
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 05:50 PM |
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I think the Indy R has more than proved itself as a race winning car, take a look at the link below for just one example of many race wins last
year.
video of race here; 3rd video from the bottom, October 02/10/10 program 1 part 2 "Allcomers"
http://www.750mc.co.uk/index.php
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Alfa145
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 05:54 PM |
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Think positive, they're not flaws they're engineering challenges 
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ajw
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 07:09 PM |
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Neil send a message to NOC231073 he is in South of Ireland and finishing Indy r with 1350 Hyabusa . I am awaiting the gren / duratec race car at
factory for delivery to South next month. NOC is superb in his attention to detail.
Alex W.
See my comments in MK section under AJW
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austin man
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 07:39 PM |
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The Indy R has had a lot of work put into the design and build and is building a reputation for a trackday weapon, and racecar. The car has been
further developed following on from Danny and Chris Maries racing it over the last two seasons.
The MK Indy in its own right also had many successes in different classes so again should not be dismissed like all cars each will have a weakness.
Many of these can be caused by the builder and the quality of their build. Personally I find the guys at MK to be very sociable and builders of a very
reliable and sound product yes they do have their flaws as do well all, and you have to remember attitude breeds attitude "he who casts the first
stone" and all that. People mention that parts where missing question is how long have you had the kit and could the part have been misplaced ?
The sturdiness of the product Indy R can be seen in the chasis that hangs on the wall of the workshop which nose to tailed a couple of times and then
did several barrel rolls. Initial impact was in sixth gear possibly hitting 110 going airborne over the top of a Westie
 
Description
For many a completed car comes in under the £7k mark (CEC)and gives enjoyment to the builder both in the garage, on the road and track which aint a
bad price when you consider the opposition.
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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david
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 08:50 PM |
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mk indy
Neill, where abouts are you in N.Ireland, I have my indy almost finished if you wanted to view . David
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StevenB
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| posted on 1/3/11 at 10:47 PM |
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My MK is a rolling chassis which you can view.
Where are you?
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mad4x4
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| posted on 2/3/11 at 05:45 AM |
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Only Flaws aI saw with the the Older INDY chassis were :
1)If you didn't use seats with harness holes then the Top seatbelt mount was to low. Typical off all of these style cars
2) I'm still blighted with the "won;t" self center problem...... But of course it's not a design flaw.
Still need to pay me lot more than my Indy is worth to get me to part with it - Still puts a big smile on my face 
[Edited on 2/303/11 by mad4x4]
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 2/3/11 at 10:20 AM |
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Snoopy is that really you charlie, long time no hear, welcome back oh guru of the MK.
tony
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woodster
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| posted on 2/3/11 at 10:49 AM |
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snoopys back, how goods that, welcome back
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 2/3/11 at 11:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snoopy
mmmm having read this its worth thinking about the indys history a little it started life as a humble locost in design a design by good old Ron
allegidley and was mk2 escort based this design was hard to find doner parts for so it was adapted for the sierra parts not designed just adapted
firstly it was widened and the chassis hired to get the sierra engine in the rack of the sierra had to be modified again a compromise of original
design the first versions had dedion axles not independent rear suspension i still think these were the best cars we ever made following the original
book design to date but thats just my opinion again these cars were not true indys more like locost hybrids the indy came about due to market
forces really not due to being better or worse but because people wanted the independent rear suspension because it was in fashion and modern so the
book design was yet more compromised to allow this and the indy was born so you can see it wasn't designed as such just an existing design
dramatically altered so of course there are drawbacks to this. this was done in an age with no computers to model everything i personally think the
indy as such does a great job for what it has gone through the design of the indy must work because of how many indy clones there is and theres quite
a few isnt there guys anyway the indy r was designed on computer to well lets say maximise the indys potential but this design also had constraints to
its design as it was limited to the bodywork of the original indy having to fit a kit car is a car you build yourself its what you put into it and how
satisfied you are its about being stubborn and making things fit where you want and its your car unique to you and for what you want it for its an
experience a journey sometimes its easy sometimes hard sometimes you will want to give up its apart of you and all in all at the end of it you will
feel proud and stand back and say to yourself WOW I MADE THAT ALL BY MYSELF
LIKE THE FIRST ONE WE DID
[Edited on 2/3/11 by snoopy]
If your work is as unintelligible as that lot above, it's no wonder people are starting to complain. I gave up less than half way through.
Treat people with a modicum of respect, and use a bit of punctuation at least.
Cheers,
Nev.
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fimi7
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| posted on 2/3/11 at 12:52 PM |
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Come on... Give the guy a break.
Its called a brain dump ramble. We all do it occasionally...
--- Ali
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whitestu
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| posted on 2/3/11 at 04:21 PM |
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quote:
Come on... Give the guy a break.
Quite right - Also, I don't think you can equate a lack of punctuation to a lack of car building ability.
Stu
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 2/3/11 at 04:23 PM |
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For those not aware Snoopy (Charlie) used to work for MK mostly building customers turn key cars and unofficial customer services guy never got
involved into the reason he left but deffo MK's loss, have a look in his photo archive at some of his work. I personaly come on here for advice
on locosts not for a lesson in how I should use the english language
tony
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