mad-butcher
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| posted on 18/7/04 at 07:12 PM |
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new law
went to my local car breakers today for some sierra bits for my new indy.
the place was virtualy empty. speaking to the boss and he said itt was the new end of life laws that are due to come into force and that the scrap
yards that at present take the cars bodies off him are going to charge him £200 each as they have to strip every bit of material that is not pure
metal off the car and they have to be decomtaminated before they can crush it . The end result is dearer parts.
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James
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| posted on 18/7/04 at 07:58 PM |
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If it means charging punters more for taking old cars then it'll result in plenty more being abandoned.
The end result is: free parts!
Yey!
James
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Chris_R
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| posted on 18/7/04 at 08:00 PM |
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That's the law that got Clarkson a Volvo for a quid on Top Gear. Hey presto, one cheap donor. Simply stihl the remains and place in skip.
[Edited on 18/7/04 by Chris_R]
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
http://www.chris.renney.dsl.pipex.com/
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 19/7/04 at 05:21 PM |
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it's all to do with tipping and what is classed as hazardess material ..... the end result of dismantaling a car is now classed as hazardess
material. as is already happening by us cars are being dumped and set on fire but when the council calls one of the carbreakers out to remove it they
are refusing without payment of £200 .... and firms are even refusing to recover insurance right offs when called out by the police as they
don't want to be left with them on their hands
Tony
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zetec
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| posted on 19/7/04 at 05:37 PM |
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Our local borough gave up and agreed to remove cars for free rather than wait for them to be dumped. I say free but when I look at my council bill
each year I suspect I know who is really paying!
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Chris_R
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| posted on 19/7/04 at 06:13 PM |
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Persuade them to give you a patch of land, a truck and to let you collect them. You never seem to meet a poor scrapper. Plenty of unhappy ones, but
never a poor one.
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
http://www.chris.renney.dsl.pipex.com/
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 19/7/04 at 06:27 PM |
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my wife and i own a butchers shop won't mention the name in case the giraffe comes after us again..
you can buy a leg of lamb and throw the bone in your dustbin and it goes as landfill we are expected to pay £3000 a year to dispose of that same lamb
bone as it's now classed as hazardous material the bones go in my bin the money goes to MK now that makes sense to me
tony
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 19/7/04 at 09:18 PM |
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I think the new law has more to do with second hand values rather than environmental issues. It will reduce the values of older cars because the new
owner now knows he may the last and have to shell out for disposal. This effect will filter up the chain and increase depreciation and hence the
overall turnover of new cars, speeding up the economy. The japanese did it first by making it illigal to weld a car, and if one failed the MOT, that
was it, no retest. Thats why 8 yearold imports are so cheap to buy in japan, even with shipping, import tax, SVA etc, it is still worth bringing them
in and selling them
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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JoelP
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| posted on 19/7/04 at 09:38 PM |
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the obvious solution (to me) is to make the manufacturers dispose of the cars they make. this would encourage them to use more easily recycleable
materials.
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 20/7/04 at 12:29 AM |
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These NEW laws were supposed to be implemented two and a half years ago as part of an EEC directive .
Many small breakers have already given up or are doing so as the extra costs involved make it difficult to make any profit.
Not only will each shell cost £200 to have recycled,but each business must have its own,or access to a draining station to remove ALL fluids before
being stored.
The last time I priced one up they were £32000 for the cheapest installation.
ONLY the largest yards will survive and they will have the monopoply as they will also be the same places stripping and recycling the shells.
This means more expensive parts!!!!
Oh by the way it now costs over £1000 per year to RENEW a waste licence.
All cars abandoned at the side of the road will be charged to the previuos recorded keeper!!!WHY do you think DVLA are really keen to push SORNs
????This is the real reason,and why are they REALLY keen to make you send your documents in with the NEW keeper on!!!
I was one of the little businesses that pulled out when these rules were first brought out two years ago,although because of small businesses failing
to comply in time due to money costs the rules were put on hold til now!!!!
As far as I'm concerned the politicians can stick Europe up their backside along with the Euro!!If you're a small business in the not so
GREAT Britain ,forget it and work for someone else it's not worth the hassle.
DEAN........
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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JoelP
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| posted on 20/7/04 at 07:18 AM |
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if you need to dump a car, just send off the v5 to a duff name. works for tickets too!
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 20/7/04 at 05:37 PM |
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Dean
I knew about the drainage, and also the racking of cars if public are admitted a mate of mine his dad owned a breakers just a field with a couple of
containers for office space and he had to concrete the area with drainage channels and underground storage tanks, but this one is completely new to
me... many thanks for the full explanation... we have a big breakers round her and i'm just wondering when it's going to catch fire like
the local tyre storage yard did
tony
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Peteff
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| posted on 20/7/04 at 06:11 PM |
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i'm just wondering when it's going to catch fire like the local tyre storage yard did
I've pencilled it in for next Thursday a shade after 10pm. Me and Umboko are waiting for the go ahead. If the contract we are working on now
pays up we will be able to afford the bus fare. Do they let you on buses with jerricans of petrol?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Chris_R
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| posted on 20/7/04 at 06:53 PM |
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Woud imagine so. Don't take the short-cut through Posh & Becks back yard though.
A bit of slapstick never hurt anyone.
http://www.chris.renney.dsl.pipex.com/
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