stevebubs
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| posted on 5/11/05 at 09:32 PM |
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Making a (not so) Quick Buck
OK...I've got most of the structure in place for a buck for my bulge.
*However* I don't have a clue what I should be using to finish it off so I can sand and sculpt it.
Help!!
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 5/11/05 at 10:44 PM |
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Body filler?
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 12:32 AM |
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That's what I was thinking, but where do I get huge amounts (preferably locally) without it costing the earth?
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froggy
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 01:12 AM |
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bulgy
i did a bonnet ages ago and bought a offcut of rigid roof insulation ,its 2" thick and you can shape it with a surform and then put a light
skim of body filler over it. you can stick it together with pva if you need to but it does give you a flat surface to start with.
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Triton
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 08:58 AM |
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Best way is to put one layer of fibreglass over it, that will stop it moving then a thin layer of filler....filler straight on top of what looks like
paper mache won't be very stable and might crack.
Autopaint do 3kgs tins of filler for about £12 a pop...in Halfrauds you are looking at £20
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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Peteff
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 10:24 AM |
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Upol body filler.
Easy sand in a big yellow tin for about £10. If you ever use a full tin on one job you're putting it on too thick  .
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Cita
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 11:27 AM |
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Thin plastic sheet over the paper and than one layer plaster of Paris about 1/2" thick.Tape some pieces of cardboard-foam whatever you
have,around the area you want to cover to keep the plasterform in some kind of a box.
Weight till it's dry and than take a piece of fine mesh chickenwire and form it over the plastermold and put another 1/2" of plaster over
it.The chickenwire is just reinforcement when you take the mold off.
Wait till it's completele dry and than you can sand the inside of the mold and finish it off with a layer of bodyfiller.
It will cost you close to nothing and you wont need any sanding when the fiberglass part is released from the mold.
Cheers Cita
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 05:58 PM |
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OK..removed the Mache and Put on a layer of FastGlass for strength...
 
Mache Removed + Fibre Laid
As you can see, it's far from level
Question I have now is how do I mix the filler? I've a 3 litre tin of U-Pol Easy Sanding Body Filler which has the following sign on the
side..
 
Filler Mixture
What exactly does this mean? 2 packets of hardener per 100ml?
TIA
Stephen
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 05:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Cita
Thin plastic sheet over the paper and than one layer plaster of Paris about 1/2" thick.Tape some pieces of cardboard-foam whatever you
have,around the area you want to cover to keep the plasterform in some kind of a box.
Weight till it's dry and than take a piece of fine mesh chickenwire and form it over the plastermold and put another 1/2" of plaster over
it.The chickenwire is just reinforcement when you take the mold off.
Wait till it's completele dry and than you can sand the inside of the mold and finish it off with a layer of bodyfiller.
It will cost you close to nothing and you wont need any sanding when the fiberglass part is released from the mold.
Cheers Cita
Thanks Cita but I don't know of a local Plaster of Paris supplier...
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 06:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Filler Mixture
What exactly does this mean? 2 packets of hardener per 100ml?
Ok...found the datasheet Here so it's 2 parts per 100 by weight
Stephen
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 06:57 PM |
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3 kilos of filler later....it starts to take shape....sort of....need to wait for Halfrauds to re-open and buy some more 
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 06:57 PM |
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I'm sure that I read somewhere that you can use plaster for building a buck , possibly in an old Hot Car mag. Thats the type that builders use
on walls . As for how much hardener to use was once told by a body repairer to use a walnut to a pea in ratio size wize. Hope that makes sense.
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Peteff
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 07:04 PM |
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Jesus H !!!!!!
What size shovel did you put the filler on with?  . You are in for a lot of rubbing there Steve. Get some 40 grit production paper, a cheap sander
and a good mask
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 07:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
What size shovel did you put the filler on with? . You are in for a lot of rubbing there Steve. Get some 40 grit production paper, a cheap sander
and a good mask
Don't ask....
You didn't see the sizes of the undulations.... it's still nowhere near the right height but a hell of a lot better than it was....some
areas still need a *lot* of building up to make it approximately the right shape.
Got a good belt power sanders, so not too worried on the sanding side - just need to wait for a dry day so I can do it outside....
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 07:12 PM |
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PS Yes - a good mask is on the list with more filler...
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chriscook
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 07:32 PM |
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If you have a Hobbycraft nearby they sell plaster of paris - its where i got mine when i did my phoenix bulge.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 08:02 PM |
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There's a Hobbycraft 200yards or so from the office...
Oh well...have to plug on with this monstrocity (sp?) for now. 1 more tub of filler should see it though to completion.
Am going to see this one through to at least mould stage (first time at glassing etc so am not too worried if I make mistakes first time around), but
may make another smaller buck if Plaster of Paris is cheap as chips.
Stephen
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stevebubs
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| posted on 10/12/05 at 09:50 PM |
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Starting to come together now...
 
Hey this is starting to look like its supposed to
 
First fit removed from bin liners
[Edited on 10/12/05 by stevebubs]
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stevebubs
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| posted on 10/12/05 at 09:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Easy sand in a big yellow tin for about £10. If you ever use a full tin on one job you're putting it on too thick .
3 Tins so far
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Hugh Paterson
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| posted on 10/12/05 at 10:09 PM |
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Fecking hell 3 tins I use one tin of that when im fairing the plug for a 20ft boat
Shug.
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Avoneer
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| posted on 10/12/05 at 10:45 PM |
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And look at the colour of your windscreen!
Pat...
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Triton
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| posted on 10/12/05 at 10:50 PM |
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should have used some foam first to take up as much of the space as poss then filler to get final shape
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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stevebubs
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| posted on 11/12/05 at 01:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer
And look at the colour of your windscreen!
Pat...
Given the fog recently, I don't think I'd notice the difference
More seriously, I think it's going to take me a year and a day to clean the garage out - absolutely everything is covered in dust
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stevebubs
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| posted on 11/12/05 at 01:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Triton
should have used some foam first to take up as much of the space as poss then filler to get final shape
Agreed but filler is easier to obtain at short notice...and it's been..... "fun"
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Cita
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| posted on 11/12/05 at 02:18 AM |
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Now that's a bulge!!!!
Make one plywood template-go to yard and start scraping-fill the hole with plaster and chickenwire-wait a few days-take buck out of hole-use ONE tin
of filler-et voila-MOULDA PERFECTA.
You'll get there mate no worries!
It's gonna be fine!
Cheers Cita
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