Mark G
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 posted on 16/12/07 at 07:40 PM |
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Build cost
Hi everyone,
My name is Mark and I'm planning an Indy build for next year, I'm sure its been covered before and I've done a search but
can't find a suitable thread anywhere.
I was wondering what the average cost of an Indy build is?
My plans are as follows...
Fireblade engine
Full cage
Ninja Green
Sierra prop, diff, shafts, rack, collumn and front sus. All of course to be modified by MK.
I'm also going to start with a Delux kit.
I'm expecting it to come in at around £6k, can anyone confirm or give me a harsh hit with reality?
Thanks in advance
Mark.
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roadrunner
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:45 PM |
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How long is a piece of string, i built mine for £5000, i have spent another £1000 since, and plan to spend another £?000's again, hope this
helps.
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dave-69isit
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:47 PM |
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y an mk
y not a mnr or mac 1 better custermer service lol
[Edited on 16/12/07 by dave-69isit]
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Mark G
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:50 PM |
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So around £6k is possible then, Thats good.
I decided on an MK because I saw one on pistonheads and fell in love.
I'm planning my build based on this car but with a few subtle differences.
What benifits would I get from choosing a different chassis apart from customer service? Besides, I've heard that MK are very good.
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dave-69isit
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:53 PM |
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thay dont self center out off the box
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bigrich
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:53 PM |
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if you have a very tight rien on your spending and don't want any "" nice upgrades"" etc and get the odd bargain or two
then you may build for that figure or a touch more but i would say 7000 to 8000 is a more real prospect for a carb blade build,
I know some will have built for less and i know alot will have spent many thousands more than that, but lets see what MK builders themselves have to
say as their the ones who Know
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A pint for the gent and a white wine/fruit based drink for the lady. Those are the rules
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Mark G
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dave-69isit
thay dont self center out off the box
Meaning what? They crab?
[Edited on 16/12/07 by Mark G]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:59 PM |
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Firstly, welcome to the forum.
We built our first blade engined Indy for 6K. That is with absolutely everything included to get it on the road. Tools, SVA, Registration fee,
Tax, Insurance, the lot.....
Having said that, prices will have increased since 2003 but with careful purchasing, it can still be done.
Have a read of our build diary.
Phil
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dave-69isit
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:59 PM |
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no not at all thay didnt have any self centering built in to the geomatry
do a search on self centering
[Edited on 16/12/07 by dave-69isit]
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Mark G
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:02 PM |
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Surely there must be adjustments that can be made?
Hellfire, I actually scanned through your website yesterday, was very impressed. looks like a good build.
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gordon
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:02 PM |
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Hi mark
welcome you can easily build for 6000 should have mine built and on the road for 3500.
see if you can get part built like i did will save you money. also post on here for anything you need.
cheers gordon
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Mark G
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:08 PM |
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Thanks Gordon, I may be getting my hands on a built but not running Dutton which I can get going and learn with. Then I'll have more of an
idea when it comes to the indy.
I really want to build the car from scratch so I can say 'I built that!'
I understand what you mean by self centering now, As if the wheel doesn't return to the centre when you let go after a corner.
Either I can ad a caster angle in when building or would the new MK chassis have eliminated this as it has redisigned front suspension?
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Hellfire
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:11 PM |
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I believe the lack of self centreing is more to do with the design of the Sierra uprights rather than the design of the wishbones and certainly
isn't just an MK trait. I'd suggest doing some research on here if this is a major concern of yours. I'm sure it's been
dicussed before on numerous occasions.
Phil
[Edited on 16-12-07 by Hellfire]
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dave-69isit
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:17 PM |
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dont no mabe
is there any finised cars out ther with the new inboard suspension ? i would like to no if its any beter or have thay just made new top swing
arms
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mookaloid
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dave-69isit
thay dont self center out off the box
Mine did - no problems at all.
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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Mark G
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:34 PM |
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Guess I'll just have to find out about the self centering problems the hard way.
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graememk
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 09:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dave-69isit
thay dont self center out off the box.
oh ? well mine does ok, the only kit cars i've seen that dont are the poorly built ones
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y not a mnr or mac 1 better custermer service lol
again not had a problem, but there again its all to do with how you treat people i suppose.
i hope dave69 is talking from experiance and not gossip and repeated information, i have an MK and i built mine for around the £5500 area (cec)
i've looked at both the mac1 and mnr, and if i was to spend there sort of money i'd buy a westfield, you get what you pay for which is why
a robin hood is cheap and mnr is ££££
[Edited on 16/12/07 by graememk]
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mark chandler
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 09:27 PM |
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Scratch built = 3k with good bits !
Somw have are as low as £1500 with CEC, it s the little bits that add up get a complete donor, with a BEC get the exhaust, carbs and electrics so you
can chop them about.
Regards Mark
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bob
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 09:38 PM |
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5K first build with pinto and a little weber carb, spent about 1K upgrading seats adding doors windscreen and bits before my pocket money dried
up.
Now running zetec 1800 and car stands me in £6500.
Mine self centres, no issues at SVA
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dave-69isit
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 10:13 PM |
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i will get my coat
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Mark G
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 10:45 PM |
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No need Dave, All comments are appreciated.
I'd like to build it with the bike engine straight off as I think if I put a car engine in it I'd never get around to changing it. All
that wiring and everything, seems like alot of work.
I'm slightly worried about where I'll be able to get the FireBlade engine from because I'll obviously need all of the bits that go
with it, i.e. alternator, starter, inlets etc... I'm guessing that they'll have a control unit or two aswell?
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bob
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 10:55 PM |
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Hi mark
Have a look in the for sale under yorkshire engines, malc has supplied a fair few engines to the lads on here.He is also a nice bloke to deal with and
knows exactly what your needs are.
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 10:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dave-69isit
no not at all thay didnt have any self centering built in to the geomatry
do a search on self centering
[Edited on 16/12/07 by dave-69isit]
And then pop over to the westfield forums and do the same search, and you'll see that they occasionally have the same problem. Shock horror,
it's not just MK's...
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 11:03 PM |
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As for costs, I've just passed the 6k mark, and probably have about another 1k to go. I could probably have done it a couple of grand cheaper,
and I certainly could have done it a few grand more expensive.
I've found that the bits i've spent more than I was expecting on are the engine and the electrics. I've spent about double what
i'd planned on the engine so far, just lots of little-ish bits adding up. I hadn't realised quite how much the instruments and lights cost
when I started either, so i'm waaaaaaay over there
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whitestu
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 08:57 AM |
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MK indy passed the SVA OK, but doesn't really self centre properly - i.e like a production car.
It isn't a problem on the road though.
Stu
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