scotlad
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 posted on 14/11/03 at 11:53 AM |
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top ball joint nuts
Hi folks
Anybody know what thread the top ball joints are where they screw into the wishbone- wanting to fit locknuts and finding it difficult to match the
thread.
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nick205
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| posted on 14/11/03 at 12:29 PM |
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Scott,
If you are using MK's wishbones then the thread should be M18x1.5
HTH
Nick
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Hellfire
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| posted on 14/11/03 at 12:30 PM |
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Scotlad,
had a similar problem very recently. MK have to get them specially made. They fit between the top ball joint and the wishbone. Should be some pics on
our Photo Archive of Red Rocket. They cost a couple of quid each from MK I believe.
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nick205
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| posted on 14/11/03 at 02:08 PM |
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Sotlad,
I got mine from my local nut & bolt place for £1.50 each. If you like I could get you some and post them.
Nick
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scotlad
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| posted on 14/11/03 at 10:46 PM |
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ah right. visiting MK next Saturday so i'll grab a couple then, or failing that i'll give Nick a shout and get them posted.
Thanks guys
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 29/11/03 at 06:06 PM |
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This may be a stupid question but...
Why do you need locking nuts at all? Surely the ball joint can't unscrew itself from the wishbone?
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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Stu16v
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| posted on 29/11/03 at 06:50 PM |
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quote:
Why do you need locking nuts at all?
To pre-load the threads, so the constant movement of the balljoint doesnt allow itself to pull through the threads. A bit difficult to picture, but
without the locknut there is likely to be a bit of 'play' over a period of time, without a locknut this would get worse.
HTH Stu.
Dont just build it.....make it!
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 29/11/03 at 06:52 PM |
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aaah ok i getcha, thanks!
so they should be done up pretty tight?
Pete
[Edited on 29/11/03 by scoobyis2cool]
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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Peteff
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| posted on 29/11/03 at 07:00 PM |
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doz@cougarracing do them at a quid each I think and lolo the same but there will be postage on that.
yours, Pete.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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bob
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| posted on 29/11/03 at 07:27 PM |
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I've seen locosts built from as early as 1997 and nobody has ever used locknuts in this area,i think you migh tbe overkilling the engineering a
bit here.
just put an M18x1.5fine nut on it
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Mk-Ninja
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| posted on 29/11/03 at 08:31 PM |
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If youve got any contacts with the pneumatics companies, they use M18 x 1.5 locknuts on the bulkhead fittings.
I'm sure I've got one, just don't know where I've put it
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RichyMkIndy
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| posted on 30/11/03 at 12:56 PM |
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surely there is no need to lock these?
as its in the thread and the only way it could chnage the camber setting while driving would be to disconnect the lower wisbone from the upright and
then roate the upright around the ball joint ?
LOL ?
surely you dont need to put nuts on this ?
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JoelP
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| posted on 30/11/03 at 03:21 PM |
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someone already said it helps prevent rattles wearing it out. Keeps the thread tight.
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JoelP
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| posted on 30/11/03 at 03:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bob
I've seen locosts built from as early as 1997 and nobody has ever used locknuts in this area...
what, absolutely nobody?! Ron says use one on page 84 of the 2nd edition. Doesnt make it necessary of course, but someone must've believed
him!
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bob
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| posted on 30/11/03 at 05:01 PM |
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Ofcourse they use nuts,just no need for nylocs.
[Edited on 30/11/03 by bob]
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Alan B
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| posted on 30/11/03 at 05:56 PM |
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Bob is correct.
When an externally threaded part is screwed into another it is standard practice to use slim nut (referred to as a "locknut"...the two
internally threaded parts are then locked against each other.....nylocks are not neccessary in this application and never have since the invention of
screw threads......nylocks are for use when there is only ONE internally threaded part...i.e regular nut and bolt use.
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/11/03 at 07:21 PM |
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It says locknut, not nyloc in the original post. If the thread isn't locked the joint can turn to an angle so it isn't level. The
Americans do away with any confusion on this point by calling it a jam nut don't they Alan.
yours, Pete
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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bob
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| posted on 30/11/03 at 07:55 PM |
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sorry i was sure i read nyloc somewhere in the thread,maybe i need more food and sleep.
I'm on the verge of booking SVA so i'm in a world of mental inbalance right now
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Alan B
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| posted on 1/12/03 at 01:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
..... The Americans do away with any confusion on this point by calling it a jam nut don't they Alan.....
Pete, yes they do...the terminology is appropriate in this case..
Although the locknut/nylock thing was mentioned inadvertently it was still worth clarifying the difference...I am certain that not everyone knew the
difference in their application.....
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mad4x4
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| posted on 5/12/03 at 11:01 AM |
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OK fine but what does mr SVA tester say about these.......
NEEDED or NOT NEEDED ?
That is the question.
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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timf
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| posted on 5/12/03 at 11:05 AM |
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is £2/£3 worth a possible sva fail ?
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Peteff
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| posted on 5/12/03 at 01:31 PM |
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It wouldn't pass MOT without them, I asked.
yours, Pete.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Rorty
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| posted on 8/12/03 at 04:03 AM |
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Lock nuts (not Nylocs, they're lock-ing nuts) are mandatory for the reasons outlined above.
I (being an old fart) remember the days when the luck nut used to be supplied with the rod end in the same box.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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James
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| posted on 8/12/03 at 12:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
I (being an old fart) remember the days when the luck nut used to be supplied with the rod end in the same box.
Buy 'em from Lolocost at £5 a pair and they are!
James
[Edited on 8/12/03 by James]
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SeaBass
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| posted on 28/2/04 at 02:47 PM |
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I'm presuming thess lock nuts have to be protected for SVA because of sharp edges. How are people planning on protecting this and the remaining
thread?
Heater hose, polyolefin shrink tube etc??
Cheers
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