blakep82
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 01:41 PM |
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you know, never realised (or thought about) hunterston being nuclear powered. absolutely no concern over it at all. its only a few miles away from me
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 01:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Personally I hope that people do their own research rather than believing everything they read in the media and don't jump to silly conclusions.
I no longer trust the media to tell the truth on ANYTHING. They give half-truths, distort the truth and sometimes simply lie, just to get a
sensational story.
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scootz
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 01:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Personally I hope that people do their own research rather than believing everything they read in the media and don't jump to silly conclusions.
I no longer trust the media to tell the truth on ANYTHING. They give half-truths, distort the truth and sometimes simply lie, just to get a
sensational story.
They do my skull in!
It was the Soham murders where I really noticed a move towards soap-opera style reporting. Disgraceful! Just report the facts please newspeople...
I'm not interested in your opinions, or supposition!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Liam
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 02:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium Dog
Personally I hope the Anti Nuke brigade give it the big one! You must be mad to think nuclear power is safe after this! How can you all be so blind as
to think a reactor that may well be leaking fissionable material is OK?
Saying 'nucler power = Chernobyl' is like saying that using modern commercial air travel carries all the risks of flying in the Hindenberg
packed with terrorists: a bit stupid.
A Chernobyl isn't even a remote possibility in Japan at the moment, as I understand the actual facts, and modern designs for future plants put
even the Japanese design (which is holding up remarkably well considering the earthquake and tsunami double whammy) to shame in terms of safety.
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stevegough
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 04:13 PM |
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Originally posted by Strontium Dog
Personally I hope the Anti Nuke brigade give it the big one! You must be mad to think nuclear power is safe after this! How can you all be so blind as
to think a reactor that may well be leaking fissionable material is OK?
A couple of years ago I made a brief study of Chernobyl and Pripyat. I intend to go there in the next few years to have a look for myself, meanwhile
heres a few pics of the place to remind you of what nuclear fuel does to the planet when it all goes wrong, which it does!
http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=pripyat&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&sa=X&ei=40F_TYzCMIyBhQee37mqBw&ved=0CEYQsAQ&b
iw=1680&bih=825
You sound just like Sky News.
If you have done a study on Chernobyl, you will have uncovered the fact that it was caused by the Russian plant management carrying out an
experimental proceedure which involved locking-off back up systems and overriding the diagnostic fault control panel.
When everything went wrong, and the reactor blew, the Kremlin further exasperated the situation by totally denying it for nearly a week to the rest of
the world.
The Russians are a law entirely unto themselves - Health and Safety takes a back seat.
Nuclear power is safe, provided the people designing, legislating and running the stations are trustworthy!
But let me give you an analogy - Driving. - if you drive sensibly and carefully - you are unlikely to have an accident. If you drive stupidly, at high
speed and with your brake pedal sawn off - you are going to cause mayhem. But just because someone drives like that, don't tar all drivers with
the same brush - don't ban motor vehicles and make us all walk?
We are running out of fossil fuels - the world demand for electricity is increasing - currently, the only realistic replacement is nuclear power -
would you like to shut it all down and return to the blackouts we had in the 70s?
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Kwik
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 04:19 PM |
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this may seem like a completely selfish thought, but has anyone considered investing in the stock markets after all the news hype has moved on? stocks
in the japanese nuclear plants have plummeted, and if the place does survive, as in not blow up completely, i will be half tempted to invest....
in fact id be tempted with a few japanese companies...
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Jasper
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 04:30 PM |
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Here's a thought for you - how many people have died through oil, gas and coal exploration and energy production?
How many people have died through nuclear energy supply and production?
Would you rather rely on oil and gas from Russia, Libya, Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc etc, or be totally self sufficient in energy? Especially when the oil
and gas start to run out.
We must be totally bonkers NOT to be building new nuclear power plants here in the UK.
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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stevegough
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 04:43 PM |
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Originally posted by blakep82
you know, never realised (or thought about) hunterston being nuclear powered. absolutely no concern over it at all. its only a few miles away from me
Hunterston A (magnox) reached the end of its life in 1989.
Hunterston B (AGR) is due to cease electricity production in 2016.
There are currently 23 reactors left operating at 9 sites in the UK Between them they generate 20% of our leccy.
- quite a few are reaching the end of their life in the near future.
We have only just begun to restart building the next generation of reactors - public opinion killed any chance of this for many years following
Chernobyl (the last station was built in 1980).
Lets hope the popular press don't wind up joe public and kill it off again.
Regards, Steve G (32 years - Safety services team co-ordinator, springfields fuels, Westinghouse (formerly BNFL)).
[Edited on 15/3/11 by stevegough]
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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MikeR
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 05:11 PM |
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One persons view of Chernobyl ...
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/
So far from what i've read the Japanese reactors have done REMARKABLY well. They've stood up to a earthquake 5 times stronger than they
were designed for. They've struggled due to having diesel generators swamped by the wave & the electricity substation switching station
thingy underground and .... swamped with water.
They never anticipated the tidal wave and thats whats caused the problems. The lessons to be learnt are about improving the backup procedures, if
they'd been able to circulate water after hitting the emergency earthquake stop button we wouldn't have an issue.
This planet needs either a MASS reduction in energy usage or a reliable, cheap, energy source that has minimal pollution. Nuclear power has pollution,
that can be deadly, but by comparison I think its far better than fossil. The biggest issue is the terrorist threat / opportunity it presents. If we
could figure out fission then we'd be in such a fantastic place ....... but we live in hope.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 05:26 PM |
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Nobody really likes nuclear (for those in the US thats New-Klear) but it sure beats tallow candles and dung burning just imagine the pollution ;-)
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trikerneil
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 05:45 PM |
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The Canadian CANDU reactor is water cooled similar to the Steam Generating Heavy Water Reactor I worked on back in the day.
We need more Nuclear power.
Neil
ACE Cafe - Just say No.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 11:24 PM |
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Something I do find a bit worrying; China has 13 nuclear power stations in operation, and 25 in construction. I hope they didn't examine
Chernobyl and work out how to build it more cheaply...
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Strontium Dog
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| posted on 15/3/11 at 11:37 PM |
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
Something I do find a bit worrying; China has 13 nuclear power stations in operation, and 25 in construction. I hope they didn't examine
Chernobyl and work out how to build it more cheaply...
Er, what do you think?!
[Edited on 15/3/11 by Strontium Dog]
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 19/3/11 at 01:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by richardlee237
Yes, but look where I work !!
And what difference does that make......... worked in all over Africa....same sugar different place 
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mogman1969
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 08:30 PM |
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having worked in some of our oldest and the newest nuke stations in this country id like to give my input , most of the cooling systems are rather low
tech think more titanic than star trek ..... its just the damage the tidal wave did that fooked every thing , you cant put a supply station in a
airing cupboard to dry out .... id like to see wind turbine on every house , solar panels for every new build , the wash , seven and humber esturys
used too , massive amounts of water that could be used to make power !!!! electric thats the way to go , what we need is a locost se7en crossed with a
c5 lol
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