paulmw
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 02:30 PM |
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Exporting a Kit car
I have been approached by a guy in Spain to buy my kit car. Could you please give me your advice, whilst I understand that it is the buyers problem I
may be able to assist him
1) Can you fly to the UK then transport the kit car on a hired trailer/transporter. Or is there a company that would do the whole thing?
2) How do you find out if the car is compliant to EURO 3/4 emmisions
3) Obviosuly he will need to make the car legal for the Spainish law
4) Whats the best way to exchange paperwork and money
5) Any other red tape to sort
Help gratefully recieved
Paul
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 02:42 PM |
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are you absolutely sure this is a genuine buyer?????
Seriously I know a few people who where offered bogus offers from buyers 'apparently' in Europe.
Are they offering a very good amount for it? more than you were thinking you were going to get?
[Edited on 19/5/09 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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MK9R
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 02:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paulmw
I have been approached by a guy in Spain to buy my kit car. Could you please give me your advice, whilst I understand that it is the buyers problem I
may be able to assist him
1) Can you fly to the UK then transport the kit car on a hired trailer/transporter. Or is there a company that would do the whole thing?
2) How do you find out if the car is compliant to EURO 3/4 emmisions
3) Obviosuly he will need to make the car legal for the Spainish law
4) Whats the best way to exchange paperwork and money
5) Any other red tape to sort
Help gratefully recieved
Paul
I've just sold my ST to a guy from Holland. He drove over here on the the ferry and i met him at Dover (he actually bought a towing dolly from
me aswell so he could tow it home).
The deal was paid for in cash (stirling, don't accept euros as you will have no idea if they are real or not, plus you get hit with the exchange
rate).
Paper work wise all i had to do was give him the log book apart from section 12 (i think) which is a small slip which you send off to the DVLA to say
its been permanently exported. The signiture on the slip needs to be the new owner and you need a covering letter signed by him saying the car has
been exported.
I was sceptical at first when he contacted me, but from other people i have spoken to its getting very common due to the strong Euro.
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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MK9R
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 02:45 PM |
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It wasn't possible for me, plus it wasn't a huge amount of money (OK 5.5k is a lot but not life ruining) , but try and get the cash
verified at a bank.
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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James
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 02:49 PM |
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You could contact Alez (actually Alex) on here who's Spanish but used to live here and got into Sevens.
Knows a fair bit about it having imported one to Spain once he'd moved back there.
HTH,
James
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Guinness
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 03:47 PM |
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I sold my Landie to a Dutchman. Paid cash, drove off with the V5. I sent the yellow bit with a covering letter to the DVLA.
If it helps I have a pair of 5 3/4" left hand drive headlight lenses for sale!
Mike
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fesycresy
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 04:22 PM |
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Didn't someone post that a lot of Elise's were going to Euroland because of the euro ?
May have been Pistonheads.
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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stevewi
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 07:25 PM |
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Sold my Aeon GT3 earlier in the year to a chap in Germany.
Paid by bank transfer, met him at Dover and off he drove with some trade plates.
Would let him investigate about spanish import law, as most of its going to be in spanish.
All you need to do is give him V5 and then send the yellow bit off informing DVLA of permanent Export.
Look like there are a lot of cars going abroad, my single seater went to Ireland.
Steve
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l0rd
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 08:11 PM |
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Mainly it because of stupid laws like the ones in Greece saying that you cannot build your own car at all.
Even if i build one here register it here etc... and move it to Greece which is what i planned, you still can't take Greek number plates and
make it road legal.
Hence been thinking of a Westland 
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Hellfire
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 08:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
Hence been thinking of a Westland
Is that similar to an Eastfield?
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Alez
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| posted on 19/5/09 at 10:53 PM |
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Hi guys,
I've been away for a long while but I just received an email from Paul re the topic of this thread and I thought I'd post my email
response here as well...
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Hi Paul,
I have imported a kit car in Spain twice. If the buyer has the
intention to put it on the road with Spanish reg, I would strongly
recommend that the car is road legal in the UK and its "date of first
registration" is as old as possible. More specifically, 25+ years old
may allow for "historic reg" here if the correct strings are pulled.
Even so, he may be unable to register it in Spain for road use. The
reason for this nonsense is the lack of agreement between the UK and
Spanish SVA (which basically means you need to take the car through
Spanish SVA regardless of it being road legal in the UK), the
differences between regulations applicable for MOT in the UK and
Spain, and a very stupid attitude towards several things here in
Spain. New regs are very bad because we use the Euro emission
regulations in a different way (using the age of the car, not the
engine, go figure).
On the day of purchase you will need to fill in the V5C section for
"permanent export". This is because, not having a UK residence, he
won't be able to provide a valid UK address that would allow to
transfer the vehicle to his name. He will need a receipt for the
purchase of the car. Together with the V5C bit that shows you as the
(previous) owner, that will allow him to prove ownership and
eventually register the car in Spain. Then, in order to take it to
Spain, he can do one of the following:
-Bring a car with a trolley.
-Arrange a "red plate" or "green plate" for the car (sorry can't
remember which of the two just now) through an agency. That's a
provisional reg and insurance, valid for up to a few months. Any
"motoring agency" should be able to help with this as it's common
practice.
-Arrange insurance through a normal insurer using the UK reg. I doubt
this is an option because maybe the UK reg is not valid anymore as
soon as you declare the car exported (that's on the day of purchase).
Also virtually no insurance companies in Spain will take a UK
registered car and virtually no insurance companies in the UK will
take a Spanish address or accept a Spanish driving license.
Your potential buyer may want to check the Spanish message board
trackdaycars.freeforums.org, where a few enthusiasts and builders
talk about these things.
I hope this helps. Please give my regards to the Locostbuilders guys
if you have the opportunity, I've been away from the forum for quite a
while, but I really like the people there and they've been hugely
helpful many, many times in the past.
Best regards,
Alex
"
On the options for transport, I obviously missed arranging transport through an specialist, which may be expensive but saves a lot of time (tipically
in a ferry).
Cheers,
Alex
[Edited on 19/5/09 by Alez]
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l0rd
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| posted on 20/5/09 at 05:12 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
Hence been thinking of a Westland
Is that similar to an Eastfield?
It is but more similar to the Southfarm.
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paulmw
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| posted on 20/5/09 at 08:41 AM |
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Thanks for your comments guys and especially to Alex
Maybe theres a business opportunity for ferrying kit cars abroad..... any takers
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