mad-butcher
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| posted on 23/12/02 at 06:23 PM |
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sportspowerdrive.com
had a tip off about this one go to www.sportspowerdrive.com click on replica 7 go to bottom picture the yellow car click on bottom right picture and
low and behold another person who puts indy wishbones on upside down. I'll have to have a word with martin and find out if this guy is buying his
chassis's off martin or they are just good copies
seasons greetings to one and all
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 24/12/02 at 12:19 PM |
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They definately buy their kits from Martin as they were up there collecting 2 when I turned up to collect mine.
These are also the guys Bob and I were looking at on the stand next to MK at Donnington. They had the wishbones on upside down at the show, reckoned
it made the car handle better. 
[Edited on 24/12/2002 by paulbeyer]
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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interestedparty
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| posted on 24/12/02 at 12:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paulbeyer
They had the wishbones on upside down at the show, reckoned it made the car handle better.
Much better than admitting to a goof, anyway
John
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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DavidC
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| posted on 24/12/02 at 04:55 PM |
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well I went round to sportspowerdrive a few weeks ago to buy a diff, and the chassis are made there, I saw'em jigged up and part built.
He uses quite a few Westfield parts, such as the loom and exhausts (BECs). Tho I did think that his car's looked decidely like MK Indys.
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interestedparty
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| posted on 24/12/02 at 05:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DavidC
well I went round to sportspowerdrive a few weeks ago to buy a diff, and the chassis are made there, I saw'em jigged up and part built.
He uses quite a few Westfield parts, such as the loom and exhausts (BECs). Tho I did think that his car's looked decidely like MK Indys.
Hmm, that's interesting, isn't it. Pooling our knowledge, we know that they have bought a couple of kits from MK, and now they have a chassis jig
and are making their own, interesting
John
[Edited on 24/12/02 by interestedparty]
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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locodude
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| posted on 24/12/02 at 06:10 PM |
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Martin does'nt supply them anymore and if you think it's a bit cheeky making a car that looks like an Indy then look at their ad in the latest Which
Kit. They claim it's the new SPD7 when it's actually the same car that was at Donnington. Cheeky gets eh?
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Alan B
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| posted on 24/12/02 at 07:16 PM |
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Just had a look.
I see they have"Wilwood hydrolic clutch"
WTF is hydrolic?
You expect typos and spelling errors on forums, e-mail, chat rooms etc....but on a company website?....hmmmmm?
Am I too picky?
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Stu16v
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| posted on 24/12/02 at 08:06 PM |
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It seems that they are using Westy aeroscreens, and Westfield rear lights fitted upside down (wonder if this makes them handle better??)
Dont just build it.....make it!
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DavidC
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| posted on 25/12/02 at 07:20 PM |
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I hope they're not westfield lights, purely cos he told me that he got them straight from a supplier, and sell the complete lighting- set for around
£100.
Westy charge £250 for their equivalent, so he'd be making a silly loss if they were Westy's.
The aero screens aren't westy either, similar, but up close they're definitely not Westy, too narrow.
He also claimed to make the bodywork himself with his own moulds, and to his credit there was an ~80% complete buck for a Ferrari 250 bodyshell there
in the workshop, and lovely it looked too.
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johnston
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| posted on 25/12/02 at 09:31 PM |
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quote:
Interior layout has all the controls at your fingertips using the ford storks as standard or dash switches.
ford storks!!!!!! have ford went into genitic research and using specially breed and trained birds to operate your indicators!!!!
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Stu16v
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| posted on 26/12/02 at 12:57 PM |
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DavidC, the car that was at Donno almost definately had the Westfield round lense lights in, with the outer cases mounted the wrong way round
in an attempt to make them fit properly.....
But I stand corrected on the areoscreen though, although that looked suspiciously similar too....
Dont just build it.....make it!
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 27/12/02 at 08:21 PM |
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have a look at the spd 200 hmm like the chassis
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Graham G
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 12:17 PM |
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Re SPD - I can confirm these 7's are direct copys of MK's and they have done none of their claimed R&D work (other than measuring Mart's chassis!)
and the body work is made by an old supplier of Martins using the same moulds (probably that Mart paid for)
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bob
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 12:31 PM |
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Looks like the stafford show will be a tad interesting then,if both parties are there.
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Graham G
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 posted on 28/12/02 at 03:48 PM |
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You can say that again Bob! Also SPD have infringed (by that I mean completely ripped off) a number of other peoples copywrites and patents...........
Watch this space!!
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locodude
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 05:04 PM |
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The only point to watch here is that Mr SPD's mother is a solicitor and I would assume he has taken a little legal advice, free of charge I assume.
So it would just be a matter of one lawyer against another and no winners!
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Viper
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 05:46 PM |
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A word of warning chaps, be VERY carefull what you say as anything that you might say can easily be called defamation (spelt right?) of character and
can lead to a libel case being brought against you.
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interestedparty
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 07:08 PM |
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Best defence against libel is for what you say to be true. And it doesn't have to be proven to be true, it just has to be on the balance of
probabilities. If the spd chassis is the same as the MK Indy, then anyone who says they copied it is pretty safe from losing a case of libel
John
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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Viper
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 10:21 PM |
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aren't all the "book" chassis just copied from one original?
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bob
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 10:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Viper
aren't all the "book" chassis just copied from one original?
Yeah,i'm pretty sure nobody actually owns any form of copyright/patent or whatever on these chassis so its probably not worth getting over excited
about,it does sound a bit rum when something like this happens but then again competition is good for the consumer at the end of the day.
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Viper
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| posted on 28/12/02 at 10:41 PM |
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what was all that legal type crap that went on between westfield and caterham? or was that just about a name??
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bob
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| posted on 29/12/02 at 12:04 AM |
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there was a load of stuff between the big two some years back,but they are still buiding and selling 7 type motors.
Lots of cars look the same in this game but the prices are very very different,i doubt very much if the car i've got will be outsold by any other
this or even next year.
[Edited on 29/12/02 by bob]
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kingr
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| posted on 29/12/02 at 02:47 AM |
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Seems that there are quite a few things that SPD can't do right... spelling, grammar, web design, orientation of car components, the list goes on.
"Each vehicle is hand built using a chassis design due to the result of years of experience"
Hmmm, let's have a look at that phrase. The way he's put it, it sounds as if were it not for the years of experience (it doesn't say who's
experience I note) then they wouldn't use a chassis design at all!!
Granted, I'll be first to admit that my spelling and grammar are not perfect, but then I'm not trying to sell anything.
Kingr
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mdc124
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| posted on 5/1/03 at 08:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kingr
Seems that there are quite a few things that SPD can't do right... spelling, grammar, web design, orientation of car components, the list goes
on.
You could always email him and help him correct it - you could get his story whilst you are at it too. That might be 'helpful' - do we do that
around here?
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Graham G
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| posted on 6/1/03 at 08:46 PM |
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We all support Mk + since when have fact's had anything to do with a good story!
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