Kriss
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:22 PM |
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What brakes do I have????
I all, trying to work out what brakes I have as I am looking to maybe upgrade to Wilwoods.
As I dod not build my car I dont know what I have or what will be compatible with my upright. Whats the best way to work out?
Its an MK Indy with Ford marked calipers that dont look particulary big.
I hate being vauge but just dont know where to start.
Pretty sure it Sierra, but the rear xr4x4 dicks etc look bigger than whats on at the front.
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blakep82
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:24 PM |
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get some photos up  its the best way
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Kriss
Pretty sure it Sierra, but the rear xr4x4 dicks etc look bigger than whats on at the front.
Unfortunate typo there!!! 
As said - pop a pic up of the caliper and upright
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Kriss
but the rear xr4x4 dicks etc look bigger than whats on at the front.
I hope you mean DISCS 
Photos and then everyone can help, wilwoods are light but expensive, and to be honest are maybe a touch overkill for a such a light car unless you
need the lighter wieght of unsprung mass.
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:31 PM |
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ARG! paul you beat me!
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TimC
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:31 PM |
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If it's a Sierra, then I believe there are 3 options. Solid discs from the earliest cars, vented discs being most commonn or 'big'
vented discs from the Cossie. I'm no expert but that's my understanding.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
ARG! paul you beat me!
Sorry mate - i'll let you have the next one!!
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Kriss
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:32 PM |
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two pics I have
1 pic I have to see difference in size
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:43 PM |
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Looks like the standard Sierra uprights and calipers then - solid disks from the 1.6L version?? Might be worth having a look what pads you have and
simply changing them for something more exotic if they are standard. Mintex 1144's etc
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Kriss
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:45 PM |
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pretty sure they are ferodo's (sp)
How can i work out what Wilwood (or other uprated brake kits) are compatible with my upright?
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blakep82
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:47 PM |
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if wilwood is what you want here's a start
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=562_563_567&products_id=10508
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:47 PM |
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If you want to fit new calipers
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:49 PM |
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Darn you Blake!!!
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l0rd
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:50 PM |
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Is there a bolt missing from your wheel?
I would start by fixing that.
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blakep82
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:50 PM |
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don't get all cartoon villain on me!
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Kriss
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:52 PM |
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cheers chaps,
anything else worth considering? do not want to limit my options at all if they dont need to be. heard hi-spec are pretty poo. My friends busa has
westfield AP's but they are silly money.
is it worth me looking for a differ MC at the same time?
I am going to bleed my brakes as no idea what fluid has been used so will chuck in some RBF600 first to see how that feels.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 6/10/08 at 09:57 PM |
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What pedal box / master cylinder setup do you have???
If you want to go the HiSpec route, then personally i'd say keep the weight down with the 9mm disk option
link here
Ultralite 4 260x09mm Sierra
Nice calipers and also have dust seals which i dont think the Wilwood kit has???
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britishtrident
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| posted on 7/10/08 at 06:53 AM |
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Don't fall for snake oil
Unless you have a monster of an engine the best single brake upgrade for you is simply to change the master cylinder to one with a smaller bore.
---if you want to stay with a single tandem master cylinder the master cylinder from Fiesta Mk1 997 or 1100 non-servo version. is what you want.
Alternatively you could fit bias bar pedal box with suitably sized master cylinders --
Then If find the brakes are over heating then up fit Sierra vented disc and calipers.
[Edited on 7/10/08 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
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Kriss
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| posted on 7/10/08 at 01:23 PM |
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thankyou all for your advise. I now know what my options are, but first i think another track day is needed and give the breaks a bit more stick to
see what needs improving. Bias, heating, force etc.
I think if anything I will either upgrade the disks to something with more bite and a break bleed to decent fluid, or get the Wilwood package.
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Jubal
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 07:40 PM |
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Bleed them well, given who fitted them. My brakes have always needed a damn good prod and been a bit lacking in initial bite, especially compared to
willwood/hispec alternatives on other people's cars I've tried. However, they have never failed to stop me on a sixpence, can be modulated
well, and have never over heated on a track day. I run standard Sierra disks and no name pads from the local factors.
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Kriss
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:44 AM |
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Do you run a decent fluid then del? It's early days and only one track day under it's belt so far.
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Jubal
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 09:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Kriss
Do you run a decent fluid then del? It's early days and only one track day under it's belt so far.
Nothing special, standard DOT4. Whatever was on the shelf. I know I could have better brakes having driven other's cars but it's only by a
small percentage. Not really noticeable in a track day situation.
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