Chippy
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 09:59 PM |
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Question for a welder!
Hi, I tried to weld an R1 can onto my S/S exhaust pipe, and as you can see from the attached picture it definately didn't work, the weld seems to
have cristalised. I have welded many S/S items in the past and never had a problem, well at least not like this. Any idea's why it should
happen??????? Cheers Ray.
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To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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maximill666
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:02 PM |
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Your R1 can pipework is Titanium
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907
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:06 PM |
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Is an R1 can titanium?
(Titanium gives off brilliant white sparks if touched with a grinder.)
Paul G
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bigrich
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:09 PM |
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as above, thought they were made of titanium
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A pint for the gent and a white wine/fruit based drink for the lady. Those are the rules
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Chippy
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:10 PM |
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Well if it is Titanium, (although must say it "looks" like S/S), can it be welded, and if so how? Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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maximill666
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:11 PM |
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Is an R1 can titanium?
Early R1 Cans (4XV) are stainless with a carbon sleeve, and then changed to titanium sleeves & pipework 2000-2001 (5JJ)
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Mark G
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:12 PM |
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Tig?
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907
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
Well if it is Titanium, (although must say it "looks" like S/S), can it be welded, and if so how? Ray
Not to stainless Ray
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mark chandler
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:15 PM |
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I have chopped two R1 cans now, both stainless.
Are you using TIG ? For a proper job you should backgas but as its thick I never bothered and mine have both been fine.
If you drill the rivits and knock off the ali cover the tube is welded to a mild steel case.
nb/ Titanium is just the end cap on a GSXR can, they do not make these out of this stuff as its expensive, just have little finishers... then call it
a Titanium can !
[Edited on 9/10/08 by mark chandler]
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maximill666
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:24 PM |
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[If you drill the rivits and knock off the ali cover the tube is welded to a mild steel case.]
On A 5JJ exhaust can only the top end cap below the ali cover is mild steel (tailpipe end), the bottom one is titanium just like the pipework
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maximill666
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:34 PM |
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[Well if it is Titanium, (although must say it "looks" like S/S), can it be welded, and if so how? Ray ]
As Paul G said, unfortunately NO
Titanium cannot be fusion welded to stainless steel.
[Edited on 9/10/08 by maximill666]
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Chippy
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:39 PM |
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Well just one word for it, bu**er!!!!! More cash down the drain, Ho Hum! Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 11:17 PM |
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or make the rest of the system titanium....
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 10/10/08 at 06:50 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
or make the rest of the system titanium....
 Might empty your pockets though
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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quattromike
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| posted on 10/10/08 at 12:01 PM |
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What about soildering them together that should work? but you'l need to slip one inside the othwer a bit and I'd say use silver soilder
too which is expensive
"At the end of the day, I think it's going to get very dark"
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wilkingj
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| posted on 10/10/08 at 12:09 PM |
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Split the pipe, insert a sleve, and two Jubilee Clips (or similar) to secure.
What else can you do if it cant be welded?
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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Chippy
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| posted on 10/10/08 at 10:22 PM |
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Have hacked one can about and I think I have the solution. I have drilled out the rivets, removed the end cap. Ground away the tail pipe completely,
and drilled out the rivets that hold the titanium plate to the steel inner. I am now going to make a stainless plate that will rivet back into the six
holes with the piece of S/S pipe welded to that, jobs a good un! (hopefully) :-) Cheers Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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