hi everyone,
any suggestions why my kit car wont move when I had it on wheels? The gear box is fittered (although not fittered by me), drive shafts etc...

the gear handle wouldnt move as though it was in gear so we took it out of gear and no joy. I took that bit out from within the gear box (i think it makes the gear handle closer) but it still wouldnt move when pushing it. could it be a bad half shalf?

thanks, will get some photos of it tonight to help with any suggestions..

take care,


[Edited on 29/12/06 by jimbona2]

handbrake on?

take the spark plugs out and try turning the engine with a ratchet. that'll tell you if it's in gear or not.

where in the world are you?
tom

Usual thing is that the brakes are binding or in my case the new rear bearings (hub nuts) were tightened up as they should be but they prevented the wheels from turning. Once moved around a few times and after a couple of runs (and a re tighten ) the rear wheels turned freely.

Hope this helps

Clutch stuck to flywheel?
How long has it all been sitting?
How strong are you???
Tried a gentle tow?

mine wouldnt move for a start, new brakes disks etc, its ok now we towed it out the garage

Jack each corner up and spin each wheel to eliminate them.

Pat...

still reading through each comment but so far great advice... im in good old cambridge, where we live in castles and eat tea (i wish)...

theres no handbrake although my lack of knowledge maybe theres a bit of it there that Im not aware of..

Had something very similar happen to me. I had kept my engine outside for a year, and didn’t check the clutch when I fitted into the car. Everything was stuck!!!!!

Had to remove the engine and replace the clutch, It had ceased onto the fly wheel and had to be removed with a chisel.

Hope this helps.


The Baron

When I tried to move the car for the first time it wouldn't move at all....
I'd forgotten to put the 10mm spacer plates on , so the wheel was jamming on the brake caliper.. Doh.

thanks again.
basically i bought that car with the engine, prop shaft fittered but since then i've fittered the complete back unit (drive shafts, wishbones etc..) and without wheels I can turn either shaft to make the other one turn in the opposite direction but when I put wheels on it gets very hard to turn. (this is off the ground..) when on the ground its impossible to push.

one thing i've remembered after writing this is that the wheels are 13" when I think they need to be 14 or more.. could that be the problem (which i'll check when I get some 14"+ wheels)..

note the drums (or front brake discs) are not fittered as yet..

p.s. anyone got any wheels I could buy!?

The first kit I built I had the same problem. The cars I had before it were vauxhalls and the wheel bearings had to be tightened up tight and thats what I did with the kit car, but Ford wheel bearings should just be nipped-up untill theres no play. Try that if not try lifting each corner and check that the brakes aren't fouling.

13" will foul the rear upright on the Avon.

Pat...

Jimbona,
if I`m reading this correctly you have a freewheeling chassis with no brakes fitted, but there is some form of severe resistance. I would go back to basics and recheck your components as a process of elimination. Undo the prop from the rear diff and try spinning the wheels again. If they are still hard to turn then perhaps the diff is worn? If they do spin, the diff and rear wheel bearings must be o.k. Maybe then the problem is the gearbox?
Nick

looks like stuck in 2 gears!

Check if you can turn you driveshaft.
If not, the check why.

ok will do, let you know. thanks

Jim,
what Engine and gearbox set up have you got?
Nick

any suggestions how to release the flywheel/ clutch? thanks mate.

got a silver top 2 litre zetec (new type) engine. not sure what the gear box is...

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Originally posted by jimbona2
any suggestions how to release the flywheel/ clutch? thanks mate.

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GavBurns, don't try this with Sierra bearings. They should be tightened to the figure in the book and run to free themselves off. The nipping up only applies to Cortina/Escort type taper bearings. If you can get it in neutral it should push so it must be at the wheels. Whereabouts are you? someone may have some 14" donor wheels for you to wheel it round on.

not sure wot it is but somethings definitely stopping it. i've tried to change gear but thats completely stuck.

I took the gear stick out and removed the bit the gear stick sits on to make it more reachable when fully built. Then placing the gear stick directly onto the fixture without the bit in between it still doesnt move... arhhh

1. If you jack up your rear. Or dismount your drive-shaft.

2. try to turn your engine by turning the engine. if possible then your gearbox is not stuck.

3. Then push your clutch and turn your engine. If the driveshaft still keeps turning your clutch is stuck.

So please try that first.......

I have 13 " wheels fitted to my Avon But it was painfull they will hit the top wishbone bolt you have to cut the bolt about 1mm longer than the nilock its very close I fitted 3mm wheel spacers and it was fine .I eventually made some new top wishbones when I converted to disc brakes to sort the problem.

hi everyone,
i've tried turning the engine and it wont budge. think the next step is to lift the engine out and check the clutch and gearbox. would you agree? I would like to know for sure what this problem is rather than fixing it blind and driving it in year 2050 with it cropping up to bite to me in the arse

thanks in advance.

[Edited on 9/2/07 by jimbona2]

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Originally posted by jimbona2
hi everyone,
i've tried turning the engine and it wont budge. think the next step is to lift the engine out and check the clutch and gearbox. would you agree? I would like to know for sure what this problem is rather than fixing it blind and driving it in year 2050 with it cropping up to bite to me in the arse

thanks in advance.

[Edited on 9/2/07 by jimbona2]

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hi,
think i've got it sorted now! after taking the engine out couldnt help but notice there was no oil in the gear box!

hmmmm,

looks if your gear-box is a mess inside then? :-(

A stuck gearbox due the lack of oil is in most cases no good.

good luck!

put some oil in the gearbox and it was possible to move into gears although its not the lightest of gear changes..
had a new thought thanks to some guidance, could it be the clutch release beering? Im not too sure what this is but apparently its above the spline. A friend has mentioned that the standard sierra gearbox is shorter and narrow than other ones. Could this problem be because I have the wrong beering?

The other possibility might just be that theres some rust in the gearbox and it needs a good drive to throw the crap out!

Cheers

[Edited on 24/3/07 by jimbona2]

hi if you got the car with the engine+box already in and it will not move if it was me i would take the engine out and take them
apart and reline the clutch plate up and
start again and if this dose not work then
i do not know what it is...

hope it helps

I do not think your problem is the cluthc becouse with engine off you should change gear with any problem even with or without clutch pushed. However maybe you have a foult gearbox, sierra release bearing maybe could not be ok (too short)you should use QH cct133 as release bearing, and remeber to put a bearing in the flyweel.
Hope it is of any help.

If you ment the bearing in the flywheel:

If this one is to small, and the gearbox didn't fit without turning the bolts on.
Then you probably pushed this little part to one piece.

The nevertheless you still can turn the engine and the drive-axle must turn.

If you ment the clutchbearing which been pushed by your foot by releasing the clutch.

If to small then you could mounted it. If a miracle did happen then you pushed one's the clutch-pedal and the clutch would be permanent relaesed