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Toggle switch amp ratings
b3ngy - 1/5/13 at 06:09 AM

Electrics really isn't my strong point so was hoping someone could give me some advice on what size amp rating i would need for some toggle switches for my dash.

I'm going to be redesigning my dash layout so will have toggle switches for everything, lights,indicators,fog,hazards etc etc.

Do they need to be all of the same rating or different ratings depending on the circuit??

Thanks for any help.


designer - 1/5/13 at 07:28 AM

Just buy a good quality switch, with a the largest amperage, for them all.


snapper - 1/5/13 at 07:30 AM

It would be much better practise to use relays that way all the amperage is dealt with away from the switches


deezee - 1/5/13 at 07:33 AM

I assume most will be switching relays, so the amp rating needn't be too high. The toggle switches I have in mine are 10A 240v rated? so I would assume when down at 12v they are more than meaty enough. Too be honest you want them reasonably large, so they have nice chunky connectors on the back, which makes wiring easier.


BenB - 1/5/13 at 07:45 AM

A 10A 240v switch is usually still only good for 10A at 12v. High voltages might jump gaps better than low voltages but it's current that makes things get toasty warm and burn out.


b3ngy - 1/5/13 at 07:51 AM

My dash is already up and running using sierra stalks. Is there any need to consider using relays?? All I want to do is get rid off the sierra stalks and replace them with toggle switches.


rx7locost - 1/5/13 at 01:34 PM

quote:

A 10A 240v switch is usually still only good for 10A at 12v



Maybe, depending on the switch's construction. The DC capability can be as high as 100% of the AC rating or as low as 5% of the AC rating. Most switches must be de-rated for DC use. Unless it is marked for DC, you will never really know how much for sure. The problem is not usually the current carrying capability but the current breaking capability when turning the switch off.

It is best to use DC rated switches.

Here is a simple video showing the difference between breaking DC vs AC current.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zez2r1RPpWY


snapper - 1/5/13 at 03:13 PM

If your Sierra switches have a square hazard warning button they don't require relays but your switches might
If your Sierra switches have a round hazard warning button there should be relays in the wiring already but you should check


b3ngy - 4/5/13 at 08:20 AM

thanks for the help guys, i'll look in to it.


v8kid - 4/5/13 at 08:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rx7locost
quote:

A 10A 240v switch is usually still only good for 10A at 12v



Maybe, depending on the switch's construction. The DC capability can be as high as 100% of the AC rating or as low as 5% of the AC rating. Most switches must be de-rated for DC use. Unless it is marked for DC, you will never really know how much for sure. The problem is not usually the current carrying capability but the current breaking capability when turning the switch off.

It is best to use DC rated switches.

Here is a simple video showing the difference between breaking DC vs AC current.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zez2r1RPpWY


Nice video

Cheers!


snowy2 - 8/5/13 at 06:51 AM

at 12v for automotive use the amp rating is effectively the same on the switch and as a rough rule of thumb the amp rating of switches will be the same rating ac/dc and dc for all automotive circuits. the video is very interesting however the requirement of the switched load is quite high (3-4Kw = 18A at 220v) or at 12v =330A
its the same principle your mig welders work on.
so long as the switches have a rating the same or better yet higher than the circuit to be switched you'll be fine. but the switches will either all be big numb switches or all different to suit differing loads. as it was said in the post earlier use relays to handle the current loads (very very easy to fit) and get your self a matching set of low amperage switches to do the switching.