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clairetoo

posted on 20/12/09 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
I've been busy........again !

Can anyone guess what I've been making this week ?

Subframe jig
Subframe jig



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r1_pete

posted on 20/12/09 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
A jig for a bent subframe, have you been out playing in the snow with that Alfa






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Danozeman

posted on 20/12/09 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
A metal sculpture for someone for chrimbo?





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mr henderson

posted on 20/12/09 at 03:24 PM Reply With Quote
A jig for recording the postion of the lower wishbone (aka lower arm) from the front subframe of a car. Probably an older car due to the rack mounting being in front of the axle rather than behind it.


Hang on a minute, that's a 3,4,5 Cortina front subframe, is it not?

[Edited on 20/12/09 by mr henderson]

[Edited on 20/12/09 by mr henderson]






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02GF74

posted on 20/12/09 at 03:31 PM Reply With Quote
not anopther one of those. how many do you have now?!?!?!
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clairetoo

posted on 20/12/09 at 03:44 PM Reply With Quote
Some of you are close
It's a jig I have been making from an Mx5 front subframe - I have been helping to fit a KLDE V6 into one , and a major problem has been clearance for stuff like the sump and exhausts .
There is a tubular one available in the states which would solve all of the problems , but it's $1095
So I am `on a mission' to build one , and thought it best to build a jig good enough to make more than one

[Edited on 20/12/09 by clairetoo]





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hillbillyracer

posted on 20/12/09 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
I did the same thing so I could use the front suspension from a mk1 Golf on my Autograss Mini. Only the mk1 doesnt have a subframe so I cut the whole front from a rusty one in the scrappy, which got me a few strange looks!
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pewe

posted on 20/12/09 at 05:02 PM Reply With Quote
Boat anchor?
Cheers, Pewe

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zilspeed

posted on 20/12/09 at 06:08 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
Some of you are close
It's a jig I have been making from an Mx5 front subframe - I have been helping to fit a KLDE V6 into one , and a major problem has been clearance for stuff like the sump and exhausts .
There is a tubular one available in the states which would solve all of the problems , but it's $1095
So I am `on a mission' to build one , and thought it best to build a jig good enough to make more than one

[Edited on 20/12/09 by clairetoo]


I've often thought this would be a good idea to replicate pickup points from a FWD hatchback.
That way, the standard suspension complete with wishbones and struts could be used in a Mid engined car with bodywork configured around the suspension to suit.
For a roadgoing car, not fabricating unique suspension components seems like a good idea.

Don't tell anyone I had this idea though.






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gottabedone

posted on 20/12/09 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
This is what they did in the GTM Rossa - complete front end from a metro into the rear - worked very well with a GTI Metro as a donor.

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boggle

posted on 20/12/09 at 07:40 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gottabedone
This is what they did in the GTM Rossa - complete front end from a metro into the rear - worked very well with a GTI Metro as a donor.

Steve


same in the mg too??





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zilspeed

posted on 20/12/09 at 08:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gottabedone
This is what they did in the GTM Rossa - complete front end from a metro into the rear - worked very well with a GTI Metro as a donor.

Steve


As long as the right parts were used.
I had a Rossa K3 which used a GTI as the donor.
Before I got it, someone replaced a balljoint and used a non GTI one.
I don't know whether it should be different, but in my case it was and gave it tragic toe out on the OSR.
It could spin in its own length.

Fab car though, and certainly my inspiration for a similar thing in the future.

This was it with the wheel pointing slightly the wrong way.









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mr henderson

posted on 20/12/09 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed


I've often thought this would be a good idea to replicate pickup points from a FWD hatchback.
That way, the standard suspension complete with wishbones and struts could be used in a Mid engined car with bodywork configured around the suspension to suit.
For a roadgoing car, not fabricating unique suspension components seems like a good idea.

Don't tell anyone I had this idea though.


I thought the same, even experimented with it. One problem, though, is the outrageous weight of the standard components, I took a VAG car apart recently for its bits, I was expecting to use lots of the parts but when I realised how heavy a strut compete with hub, disc and caliper was I slung them back in the shell to be weighed in and decided to revert to fabricated and bought in aftermarket stuff.

Probably not a problem if the new car is going to be a bit heavy anyway, though.






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clairetoo

posted on 20/12/09 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
Some interesting thought there .
The main aim of this is make more space around the engine , with the added bonus that it should be lighter and stiffer than the pressed steel original .
Having seen this I saw a lo-cost alternative being the way forward , with maybe wishbones next on the `to do' list .





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omega0684

posted on 21/12/09 at 09:29 AM Reply With Quote
how about a little prioritisation! i've been waiting for my pulleys for over a blooming month





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iank

posted on 21/12/09 at 10:00 AM Reply With Quote
There's big money being made by people doing tubular subframes for fitting more modern engines to classic mini's. They charge twice the price of a bare 7 chassis for something with about 1/10th the work/materials.

Decent V6 in an MX5 will make a nice car.





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posted on 25/12/09 at 04:38 PM Reply With Quote
That looks sweet! And wishbones as well... I imagine that would be a sweet kit for someone wanting to, say, make a kit-car using MX5 running gear...

I can't wait to see the results when I get back!!!

Happy xmas from Ireland btw!!! I feel the new year will bring goodness to the car-cobbling world

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clairetoo

posted on 29/12/09 at 05:44 PM Reply With Quote
Had a couple of busy days !

As soon as the Christmas excess was over (and I could do my jeans up......) I got back in the garage , and got stuck in actually making the new subframe - there is just the rear mounts and a bit of gusseting on the top mounts to do , but it's 90% done now

work in progress
work in progress



Subframe nearly finished !
Subframe nearly finished !


Just hope it's not too cold in the garage tomorrow as I hope to have it finished and off the jig !





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posted on 29/12/09 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"Ay, that's alright, that..." - Fred Dibnah MBE (the real master of understatment, RIP)

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[Edited on 29/12/2009 by iti_uk]

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prawnabie

posted on 29/12/09 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
Glad to see you finally got the pedal box lid crossed off your list lol
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clairetoo

posted on 29/12/09 at 08:08 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iti_uk
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"Ay, that's alright, that..." - Fred Dibnah MBE (the real master of understatment, RIP)

Chris

[Edited on 29/12/2009 by iti_uk]

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posted on 30/12/09 at 02:04 AM Reply With Quote
I have faith. What could possibly go wrong?!?...

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pewe

posted on 1/1/10 at 03:59 PM Reply With Quote
Clairetoo, serious question - what's the advantage of fitting a V6 over let's say supercharging or, if you must, turbo charging a standard 1.8 or 2 ltr engine ?
Logic would say that you can bolt on a supercharger a lot easier than the aggro involved in fitting a different engine.
Or is it the same answer as to why anyone would fit a supercharged Lancia engine into an F27 - because you can and/or because you happen to have the engine lying about?
Cheers, Pewe

[Edited on 1/1/10 by pewe]

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clairetoo

posted on 3/1/10 at 10:17 PM Reply With Quote
The main reason for going for a V6 rather than turbo or supercharging the original 1.8 is just to have a V6
But also - there is no way a blown small engine will have the flat torque curve of the V6 - mine is happy to pull away at 800 rpm in second gear , and pull seamlessly to 8000 .
Plus theres always the option of a turbo or two on the V6 - the KL can make up to 800 bhp on twin turbo's , while 600+ is not unusual

link to 800 bhp KL V6

[Edited on 3/1/10 by clairetoo]





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Angel Acevedo

posted on 4/1/10 at 12:04 PM Reply With Quote
Pick up Point Bracket Length.

quote:
Originally posted eby clairetoo
As soon as the Christmas excess was over (rand I could do my jeans up......) I got back in the garage , and got stuck in actually making the new subframie - there is just the rear mounts and a bit of gusseting on the top maounts to do , but it's 90% done now


work in progress
work in progress



Subframe nearly finished !
Subframe nearly finished !


Just hope it's not too cold in the garage tomorrow as I hope to have it finished and off the jig !


Clairetoo,
Aren´t the lower front (in thr picture ) pickup brackets a little bit long?
or are you planning on reinforce them in any other way?
As per the V 6 selection, tome, some of the best sounding motors here in Mexico are the 2.8 and 3.1 liter V6 made by Chevrolet (Vauxhall?)
Regards.
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