franky
|
| posted on 13/12/09 at 08:44 PM |
|
|
m3 donor questions...
Found a 1994 M3 donor with a friend...
Its got light bodywork damage and the guy selling it has decided he'd struggle to break even if he sorted it as its high milage.
Its got 160k on the clock but a massive history file and about 5,000 miles ago made 300bhp on 3 random rolling roads so the motor is very healthy. Oh
250lb/ft of torque too
Details for the motor are below
"Mechanical
Supersprint X-pipe decat
Custom programmed ECU, done by Perfect Touch in Hoddesdon
http://www.perfect-touch.co.uk/results.php?carmake=BMW M POWER&model=M3 E36 3.0 incl.vmax
The car was dyno'd at 298.2 (Perfect Touch) and 298.6 bhp (Power Station in Tewkesbury) on two separate rolling roads within the same week. On
13th Jan 2008 I attended a Rolling Road day with the VR6 owners club back at Perfect Touch where it made 304.4bhp (I think my car is where they’ve
taken their gains figures from quoted on the webpage above) and 247.8lbft at 5059rpm. Note the rpm max torque is made at; when the mapping was done
emphasis was put on getting a really flat torque curve; at 3750 it’s over 240lbft where it stays until 6100rpm. This meant I could drive very quickly
without using more than 5500rpm
Recent Work
New BMW clutch and braided clutch hose a couple of months ago.
I've also just fitted new [BMW] wishbones (£150each) and anti-roll bar drop links, had new ARB bushes too. 4-wheel alignment was done by a chap
I know at Mr Clutch in Brookfield Farm, Cheshunt, I go to him as he really knows his BMWs.
Previous owner was a BMW technician. He recalibrated the CO mixtures which sharpens the throttle response, not many owners do that due to the
complexity (=expense!) of the job.
Just had new gearbox mounts."
Its even got the forged wheel upgrade from new(£1200 option) so thats another bonus. bar a bit of cosmetic bodywork the car is in good condition.
Obviously its a bloody stonking donor.
I guess the million dollar question is how much is it worth?
How much would you say its worth? Its driveable by the way.
surely its a good choice as you'd never need to tune the engine as it makes too much power for a seven already.
Just how many miles would one of these lumps do? Do they have cambelts or chains?
Anything to look for in particular?
[Edited on 13/12/09 by franky]
|
|
|
|
|
prawnabie
|
| posted on 13/12/09 at 08:49 PM |
|
|
I wouldn't be worried about how much this one costs, id be worried about the price of the replacement if this one ever went bang!
|
|
|
franky
|
| posted on 13/12/09 at 08:53 PM |
|
|
a bare engine is 1k.
But the idea is it shouldn't with the number of miles it'll do a year <4k
And just to double check as a pre 95 car(its 94). It'll not have to have a cat fitted?
[Edited on 13/12/09 by franky]
|
|
|
prawnabie
|
| posted on 13/12/09 at 08:55 PM |
|
|
Thats cheaper than I thought!
Are you building the chassis to accomdate it or do you already have one to use?
|
|
|
franky
|
| posted on 13/12/09 at 09:15 PM |
|
|
A bare engine should come in at about 1k....
Not overly sure what to do with it.
The car's a bargin price though
|
|
|
MK9R
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 07:09 AM |
|
|
DO NOT DESTROY THE M3!! Its a classic, brilliant car that should be restored!!!!
|
|
|
franky
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 08:45 AM |
|
|
Its borderline whether its worth doing or not....
|
|
|
MK9R
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 08:46 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by franky
Its borderline whether its worth doing or not....
You never see one below 8k, decent ones are 10k+, concours can be double that!!!
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
|
|
|
franky
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 09:02 AM |
|
|
There's plenty of early ones at 3k ish.... its a 1994 M3 not one of the newer ones.
[Edited on 14/12/09 by franky]
|
|
|
MK9R
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 09:07 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by franky
There's plenty of early ones at 3k ish.... its a 1995 M3 not one of the newer ones.
Oh sorry, thought it was an e30 m3, just read 1990 (not not 94)!!!! I take it all back, cut it up and stick it in a your kit, its the Worse M car
ever built
[Edited on 14/12/09 by MK9R]
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
|
|
|
MK9R
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 09:09 AM |
|
|
and if you cut it up you may find a bag of drugs in the back to sell on 
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
|
|
|
franky
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 10:18 AM |
|
|
anyone else help?
|
|
|
RobLyon
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 11:12 AM |
|
|
The CAT change over point was 93 so it will need one. I know the Vanos systems cause some problems but not sure of the symptoms cost etc or whether
the EVO engine is better/worse.
|
|
|
franky
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 12:52 PM |
|
|
bugger on the cat front! I was 90% sure it was 1995 onwards
its the vanos system on the evo that can cause problems as this is the 3.0 pre-evo its only got it on the inlet I think, this is 'suppose'
to be the stronger unit. With the already done mods its making as much poke as an evo unit.
|
|
|
mr henderson
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 01:14 PM |
|
|
Sept 95 Mreg is OK, N reg isn't
|
|
|
franky
|
| posted on 14/12/09 at 01:56 PM |
|
|
great, I double checked too as as a 1994 reg car it'd be fine
|
|
|
