a4gom
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| posted on 7/1/10 at 11:13 AM |
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R1 5VY external oil cooler
Looking at fitting an external oil cooler to the R1, I want to fit one in addition to the standard one so will be using a sandwich plate behind the
oil filter.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, part numbers, size of matrix, suppliers, prices.
Much obliged.
Andy
Perfect planning prevents pi$$ poor performance!
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Gergely
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| posted on 7/1/10 at 12:25 PM |
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Hi Andy,
There are pics in my photo archive in the 5VY mods folder on how we have installed the oil cooler. There is not enough space to fit the sandwich plate
under the oil filter, so we have left the filter as is, and removed the original oil cooler of the bike and have fitted the sandwich plate there.
Works fine (note that the oil lines are pointing forward in reality, this is only a trial fitting picture...).
 
Oil cooler take-off
The parts we have used are (Merlin motorsport codes included):
- Mocal oil cooler 235mm matrix. 16 Row. -10JIC male unions on the top (M-OC16-10JIC)
- Mocal sandwich block with integral thermaostat. Thermostat opens at 80C. Ports tapped 1/2BSP (M-OTSP-1)
- Mocal cover plate (mushroom) 13/16 UNF (M-CP-13/16UNF)
- ADAPTOR 1/2BSP X -10JIC ALLY (to fit between the sandwich plate and the union) (G-741-08-10D) - 2 pieces
- approx. 2 meters of -10JIC oil hose
- -10JIC straight female fittings (G-236-0110) - 2 pieces
- -10JIC 90 degree female fittings (G-336-9010) - 2 pieces
Plus we have modified a Yamaha oil filter adapter that we used to fit the sandwich plate to the engine. I can not remember the thread size, but it
will be obvious when you look at the fittings of the oil filter and the oil cooler. You will understand...
We have not bought all of these from Merlin, but some from a local rally shop. The Merlin sourced parts arrived fine and quickly though.
I hope this helps!
Regards,
Gergely
Our build pictures
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 7/1/10 at 12:35 PM |
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I have a 16 row 235mm wide cooler, made by some Swedish company (Setrab). Mounted tight to the front of my Radiator.
It used to over cool the oil so I needed to install a Mocal oil thermostat (Merlin motorsport) with 1/2inch push on fittings, which sorted things out
a treat.
I think that these guys are probably the best value.
The challenge (for me) was getting sorting out all the threads as there are any number of different combinations and permutations.
Matt
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yorkshire-engines
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| posted on 7/1/10 at 01:43 PM |
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Hi Jedi racing cars make a nice adaptor with lines and fittings and you want a nice hayabusa oil cooler rad which i have £75 inc delivery
cheers malc
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franky
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| posted on 7/1/10 at 02:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by a4gom
Looking at fitting an external oil cooler to the R1, I want to fit one in addition to the standard one so will be using a sandwich plate behind the
oil filter.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, part numbers, size of matrix, suppliers, prices.
Much obliged.
I've got a full new set-up for sale if you want, everything to run an external filter or just a sandwich plate, new mocal oil cooler/billet
sandwich plate/some connections and a remote filter housing if you want to do that with sandwich plate cover.
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Major Stare
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| posted on 7/1/10 at 09:44 PM |
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Andy,
I have a sandwich plate, brand new as i never fitted it to the R1.
Part number for the Billet Plate TGASP100 from Think Automotive.
Also have an M20 x 1.5 Extension screw, Think Automotive part number 626.
Let me know if there anygood, i need rid of them
[Edited on 7/1/10 by Major Stare]
Jon "FISH"
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a4gom
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| posted on 9/1/10 at 12:30 AM |
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thanks malc, does the jedi one fit under the oil filter?
jon / franky thanks guys, just need to sort out exactly what we are planning we need two of everything so its possible i'll be back.
Andy
Perfect planning prevents pi$$ poor performance!
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crafty
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| posted on 12/5/11 at 01:08 PM |
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Here's another style with fittings out the end.
Derale part # 15706..... USD21.95 at Summit racing
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DER-15706/
Its in the 5th pics down here http://www.joe250.com/cars/mini/rebuild/step45/step45.html
Ultima GTR - 600hp Magnacharged LS2
MNR Vortx - Supercharged R1
Porsche 356 - midmounted Audi V8
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crafty
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 01:54 AM |
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Hi folks,
Ive put together a picture and a list of all the bits needed for an accusump and oil cooler.
Links to Summit Racing below.
Oil cooler adapter is 20x1.5mm threads - I understand that this is not suitable for suzuki, but OK for all others.
Options for electric or manual valve.
ACCUSUMP
MOUNTING BRACKETS
MANUAL VALVE ......... OR ..........
ELECTRIC VALVE
-10 HOSE
-10 90DEG HOSE END
OIL COOLER
CHECK VALVE
-10 TEE
-10 HOSE END
OIL COOLER ADAPTER
-10 / ½” NPT HOSE END
[Edited on 13/5/11 by crafty]
Ultima GTR - 600hp Magnacharged LS2
MNR Vortx - Supercharged R1
Porsche 356 - midmounted Audi V8
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dangerousbrian
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| posted on 27/6/14 at 11:44 AM |
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Ok, i've read quite a few of these r1 oil cooler posts and i just seem to be accumulating parts that dont fix 
Can anyone tell me the size of the union that i need to buy in order to screw on a takeoff into where the original R1 cooler connected to?
Its driving me absolutely mental, i've now got 2 takeoffs and a wrong size union that i can screw into anything.
Help much appreciated otherwise i'm setting fire to it in the garage! 
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Davey D
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| posted on 27/6/14 at 01:52 PM |
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all you need is what Gergely has written. Have you got a Yamaha oil filter union? you need one to fit a takeoff when you remove the original oil
cooler
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dangerousbrian
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| posted on 29/6/14 at 12:15 PM |
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After posting this the other day i had a bit of a brain wave, i have a spare R1 engine so decided to steel the oil filter union off that. The only
problem i found was that the Nut part of the union seemed too big so whenever i tightened one of my take offs it just never sat tight enough against
the engine.....i THINK i've managed to find a workaround for now, just waiting on some an10 90deg adapters since it's too tight against
the chassis with the straight ones.
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Davey D
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| posted on 29/6/14 at 12:24 PM |
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You need to trim down one side of the union. I think it's the side that screws into the engine. Can't fully remember. Though it was
obvious when I was under the car fitting it all.
I also had to machine a few millimetres off the inside of the mocal oil takeoff as like you said it wouldn't nip up to the engine as it was
hitting the union nut
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tyrrell
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| posted on 29/5/15 at 12:37 PM |
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could anyone confirm the thread size of the adaptor that was used to bolt the cooler plate to where the standard water cooler went?
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dangerousbrian
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| posted on 31/5/15 at 12:57 AM |
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The cover plate I bought was M20 x 15 if that helps.....
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adithorp
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| posted on 31/5/15 at 08:01 AM |
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Definitely M20 x 1.5 thread on the oil cooler (same as the oil filter).
Some discussion HERE
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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tyrrell
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| posted on 31/5/15 at 08:13 AM |
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I see, so you bought a male to make m20 1.5 adaptor screwed that into the block and the fitted your cover plate or am I missing something.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 31/5/15 at 09:22 AM |
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http://www.mattlewisracing.co.uk/product.php/1050/143/oil_cooler_plate___matt_lewis_racing
Thats what I used above, it's got a very thin nut part so no machining required, so then a Mocal stat plate and end cover is what I used.
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adithorp
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| posted on 31/5/15 at 12:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tyrrell
I see, so you bought a male to make m20 1.5 adaptor screwed that into the block and the fitted your cover plate or am I missing something.
Yes, though the adapter is the Yamaha part that the oil filter screws onto. I just got another from an engine builder.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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tyrrell
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| posted on 31/5/15 at 04:11 PM |
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Think I will just get that male to male adaptor about 8 quid
Thank you
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CosKev3
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| posted on 31/5/15 at 04:16 PM |
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The Yamaha part new is over £30!
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tyrrell
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| posted on 1/6/15 at 08:38 AM |
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Just had a bit of a thought. To those running a stat plate, wouldn't the engine have far to much oil in until the stat opens bearing in mind we
overfill the r1s anyway?
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tyrrell
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| posted on 1/6/15 at 08:41 AM |
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Obviously the longer the lines and the larger the cooler the bigger the problem.
Just a thought I might be well off and overthinking haha
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adithorp
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| posted on 1/6/15 at 09:28 AM |
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No.
The oil doesn't drain back from the cooler into the sump, just like it doesn't drain back from the galleries or filter.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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tyrrell
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| posted on 1/6/15 at 10:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
No.
The oil doesn't drain back from the cooler into the sump, just like it doesn't drain back from the galleries or filter.
oh ok so the oil dosent drain back even if the cooler is higher than the engine?
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