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flak monkey

posted on 3/5/10 at 03:12 PM Reply With Quote
What a difference...

Mintex M1144 pads are over Wilwood Smart Pads!

So much better even when they aren't bedded in properly...

Best £50 spent at Stoneleigh





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dhutch

posted on 3/5/10 at 04:36 PM Reply With Quote
Powerlite calipers i presume?
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Paul (Notts)

posted on 3/5/10 at 04:41 PM Reply With Quote
next item on the shopping list. Was not sure that it was worth swapping with so much life left in the smart pads BUT they are Cr*p.

Paul

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flak monkey

posted on 3/5/10 at 06:06 PM Reply With Quote
Yep, powerlite calipers.

The smart pads performed about the same as the standard cortina calipers with decent pads but the M1144's are so much better





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dhutch

posted on 3/5/10 at 10:37 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by flak monkeyThe smart pads performed about the same as the standard cortina calipers
With what pads?

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AvonBelgium

posted on 3/5/10 at 11:16 PM Reply With Quote
Can I ask you from witch company you bought them, and or the mintex ref nr

Thanks

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flak monkey

posted on 4/5/10 at 06:56 AM Reply With Quote
The cortina calipers had mintex pads, cant remember which spec though.

They are available from Rally Design

Clicky





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goaty

posted on 4/5/10 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
i now see they do them for the Midilites
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hicost

posted on 5/5/10 at 01:56 PM Reply With Quote
yes

I said this along time ago, you have brakes with 1144's compared with the utter sh*t wilwood pads are. Rally Design even admit wilwood pads are cr*p and I still saw them for sale at Stoneleigh.





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livelee

posted on 29/5/10 at 07:53 AM Reply With Quote
Do you know what compound you had in the "shite" wilwood pads? If you look at the graphs on their site you'll see a massive difference in performance, even across the 3 different smart pad compounds.

Saying wilwood pads are no good is too much of a general term. You need to mention the pad compound as well.

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flak monkey

posted on 29/5/10 at 08:13 AM Reply With Quote
BP10 smart pads.





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livelee

posted on 29/5/10 at 08:28 AM Reply With Quote
Yes, they are rubbish.

Look at page 4 here: http://www.wilwood.com/PDF/Flyers/fl227.pdf

BP-30 or Compound A is where it's at. If anybody could find this kind of data for the mintex pad range or any other manufacturer I'd be interested in seeing it.

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livelee

posted on 7/6/10 at 06:48 AM Reply With Quote
No comment?

Does anybody run compound A or BP-30? I predict these will blow the Mintex pads away.

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Andy D

posted on 7/6/10 at 02:56 PM Reply With Quote
I've tried:
(All my comments refer ro trackday use)

Wilwoods Smart, as has been said, poo!

Wilwoods Poly E, I rated highly.

Wilwoods Poly A Good, but a bit grabby, probably requiring more heat than I was putting into them.

Mintex 1144, probably a good road pad, but not up to trackday work.

So, I was going to try the Poly As again, but discovered Mintex now do the Powerlite pads in 1155 compound. Have fitted a set and they'll get a trial at Oulton next Tuesday.

[Edited on 7/6/10 by Andy D]

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Fozzie

posted on 7/6/10 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
I have had Mintex 1144 since the Fozzmobile was built.

We put Ferodo DS2500 on the VXT and boy o boy they were good

During the winter upgrades I got some of the Ferodo DS2500 for the Fozzmobile, just 'to see' and very very good they are too.......
Although to be fair they are really a track pad.

The Mintex 1144 are brill for the road/fast road .... and a pad I would always recommend.

@ Hicost (Uxbridge 2005).....

Fozzie

[Edited on 8-6-10 by Fozzie]





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livelee

posted on 7/6/10 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Andy D
I've tried:
(All my comments refer ro trackday use)

Wilwoods Smart, as has been said, poo!

Wilwoods Poly E, I rated highly.

Wilwoods Poly A Good, but a bit grabby, probably requiring more heat than I was putting into them.

Mintex 1144, probably a good road pad, but not up to trackday work.

So, I was going to try the Poly As again, but discovered Mintex now do the Powerlite pads in 1155 compound. Have fitted a set and they'll get a trial at Oulton next Tuesday.

[Edited on 7/6/10 by Andy D]


Interesting. What Smart Pad did you use, I'll assume the BP10. Did you look at the Wilwood PDF? The BP30 is by far the best Smartpad but Poly A looks far and away their best pad.

From what I've seen the Mintex 1155 will not be as good as the 1144 at lower temps but should last a bit longer and not fade so much over 500 celcius.

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Andy D

posted on 7/6/10 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

Interesting. What Smart Pad did you use, I'll assume the BP10. Did you look at the Wilwood PDF? The BP30 is by far the best Smartpad but Poly A looks far and away their best pad.



Tbh, I didn't realise there were different grades of "smart" I got them from Rally design who only list the pads as Smart, Poly E, and Poly A. Will let you know how the 1155s perform, if they aren't up to scratch, I'll be giving the Poly As another trial.

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MikeRJ

posted on 7/6/10 at 10:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
We put Ferodo DS2500 on the VXT and boy o boy they were good



I'm a big fan of the DS2500, even though it tends to looks like a bit of old chipboard stuck to a slab of metal after some use!

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flak monkey

posted on 8/6/10 at 06:09 AM Reply With Quote
I Have DS2500 all round on the Leon and they are indeed very good on the tintop.

If the Poly A are indeed better than M1144 then thats a good reference.





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NS Dev

posted on 8/6/10 at 11:54 AM Reply With Quote
for what its worth, I just automatically use mintex 1144 pads on road stuff now, can't beat em for road use.





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