edspurrier
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 03:19 PM |
|
|
Bugger.
It would not have been unreasonable for Tiger, or the Webcon manual, or the bloke who rebult my engine and fitted the crank position sensor and the
flywheel, to have told me I needed a manual car's sensor for my Zetec. Or indeed for somebody to have put in one of the build manuals that
there are two different sorts.
But they didn't. So now I have to take the engine out - having finished the engine installation completely - and fit the new bit Tiger gave me
today.
Not a happy bunny.
|
|
|
|
|
stevec
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 03:24 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
02GF74
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 03:26 PM |
|
|
It is sod's law. If there are two different types of soomething, you will always end up fitting the wrong one.
Is there no way you can use the sensor you have with some electronics?
Do you know how they differ?
|
|
|
whitestu
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 03:28 PM |
|
|
Is it the sensor or flywheel that needs to be changed?
On my Zetec the sensor appears to be easy to change in situ [having said that mine isn't in the car yet]
Stu
|
|
|
stevec
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 03:35 PM |
|
|
Isn't it the alloy bit that holds the sensor that bolts into the block the bit thats different?
Steve.
|
|
|
Paul TigerB6
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 03:41 PM |
|
|
The sensor is bolted from the outside just above the starter motor isnt it?? Can be changed in situ or are we thinking of the wrong part??
|
|
|
edspurrier
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 03:43 PM |
|
|
It's the sensor housing that's different, and you have to take the flywheel off to change it. The automatic housing doesn't put the
sensor close enough to the flywheel.
|
|
|
Paul TigerB6
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 04:21 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by edspurrier
It's the sensor housing that's different, and you have to take the flywheel off to change it. The automatic housing doesn't put the
sensor close enough to the flywheel.
Bummer. So its a complete engine out, clutch / flywheel off job then!! Hope you hadnt got around to filling the cooling system / oil
|
|
|
edspurrier
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 04:24 PM |
|
|
Yes. All in and ready to go. Discovered this because there's no spark so it wouldn't start.
|
|
|
Project7
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 06:27 PM |
|
|
you could fit a trigger wheel to the front pully as is the norm in certain situations - its a shame not to use what is already there but at least it
doesnt mean you have to take the engine out.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-trigger-wheel-36-1-DTA-megasquirt-emerald-MBE_W0QQitemZ220155425980QQihZ012QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNam
eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
|
|
|
Paul TigerB6
|
| posted on 8/10/07 at 07:11 PM |
|
|
Bite the bullet and do the job properly. Drain the oil into a clean drain tray and it should be fine to reuse. Same with the coolant although its not
quite so expensive to replace. Might be worth splitting the engine and box in situ to make it simpler to remove without pouring gearbox oil all over
the floor from the prop end. I did the whole job in about 4 hrs on my old super 6 anyway from start to finish when i fitted a BGH box so add a bit to
remove / refit your flywheel / clutch and you should be able to do it in a day fairly comfortably.
Call it a "learning experience" and then laugh about it in a couple of weeks time. Makes the whole build much more fun if you accept that
these things happen
|
|
|
edspurrier
|
| posted on 9/10/07 at 06:14 PM |
|
|
Thanks all. Will start tomorrow.
|
|
|
edspurrier
|
| posted on 12/10/07 at 11:44 AM |
|
|
Engine now back in, thanks. Delayed a bit by discovering we needed a T35 bit for the sensor housing - whch neither I notr Halfords had - so ended up
taking the engine down to local Ford dealer, who did it for us
|
|
|
edspurrier
|
| posted on 28/10/07 at 05:04 PM |
|
|
Start You B---d
Now produces sparks. But for some reason it won't start - engine turns, fuel getting in to cylinder and damping plugs, plugs spark when I put
them on top of the block - but not a hint of a start. Nothing. Nowt.
I haven;t the faintest idea why. Surely it ought to do something, even if only a bit of a misfire. Will check the plug gaps, but if that's OK
I'll be really lost!
|
|
|
