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hillclimb classes for 2013. whats required?
daniel mason - 25/10/12 at 06:19 PM

hi all. im wanting to get out on the hills next year with a mate whos thinking the same, i will be running the caterham,with road tyres and a full screen as i dont intend being too cometative comparted to those with huge budgets. but i do not want to fit a reverse gear of any description unless i really must.
if i dont fit a reverse,what class wil i be in? as ideally id want to go with the road cars and not sports libre type! cheers

phelpsa - 25/10/12 at 06:23 PM

You'd be in modified specialist production cars, as that is the only production class that doesn't required a reverse box. That's basically locaterfields with slicks (what I run in).

[Edited on 25-10-12 by phelpsa]

ali f27 - 25/10/12 at 06:45 PM

Hi Dan would love to see you out on hills next year i am going to run my road car if i can get it sorted you would need to have reverse to go in road class not hard to use primative stater motor reverse

daniel mason - 25/10/12 at 07:06 PM

it is on a caterham mate! nose of the diff is inside the tunnel with about 5mm clearence all the way round. a 150mm gear will no way fit! and i dont like in line rev boxes

Jon Ison - 25/10/12 at 07:42 PM

Slightly off topic but sort of on topic, what slicks do you hill Billy guys run, they need to work out the box from cold ?

I did a few sprints this year but used 888's I have some x formula Renault slicks I use for track days but there like driving on marbles till warm, would be zero use on a sprint or hill climb.

phelpsa - 25/10/12 at 07:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
Slightly off topic but sort of on topic, what slicks do you hill Billy guys run, they need to work out the box from cold ?

I did a few sprints this year but used 888's I have some x formula Renault slicks I use for track days but there like driving on marbles till warm, would be zero use on a sprint or hill climb.


A92 or A15 compound Avons mostly. They are like chewing gum and most will overheat after about 2 laps of any circuit.

They come at a price though (£800 a set for the cheapest sizes).

ali f27 - 25/10/12 at 07:46 PM

Hi Dan you can run in race car class but you need a race car log book and some fia saftey mods would have to see your car to see what would be required if it has caterham cage i am sure that will pass

MsD - 25/10/12 at 07:50 PM

Whilst we are on the subject of classes, im thinking of doing a few next year-
What about a road registered 1.6 7esque car on road legal tyres with an aeroscreeen?
And any idea what competition id face?
Thanks, Mark.

ali f27 - 25/10/12 at 07:54 PM

Hi aeroscreen bit of a problem at the moment may be resolved before next season depends on how quick the 1.6 is there are some 1.6 busa,s out there

daniel mason - 25/10/12 at 07:59 PM

i have full screen and full caterham cage! if im on road tyres against guys on slicks ill have no chance

ali f27 - 25/10/12 at 08:01 PM

I have raced in all sorts of cars and formulas over the years but find hillclimbers the most friendly bunch of people in motorsport and you can make it as cheap or as expensive as your budget will allow

ali f27 - 25/10/12 at 08:08 PM

Hi Dan if you run in race class you can run slicks

ali f27 - 25/10/12 at 08:13 PM

Dan if you are on a sierra diff you could put reverse on side of diff sandwich sprocketin drive shaft flange have you seen were we have the brake disc on our race car the orange 1

JimSpencer - 25/10/12 at 08:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
i have full screen and full caterham cage! if im on road tyres against guys on slicks ill have no chance


Hi

to be quite honest while you're learning what's what I wouldn't worry about getting beat - as you will anyway, we've all been there and it'll take a while to learn.

But seeing as you've got the full cage ending up in Mod Prod wouldn't be too onerous as all it'll mean is slightly better seatbelts required, and you'll be wanting good ones in a busa powered caterham anyway!

Re tyres stick Avon ZZR's on it in A24 compound - that's their road legal cut slick and you'll not be that far off an out and out competition tyre in any case.

The important bit is just getting out there and having a blast, don't worry about being out and out competitive just enjoy yourself, learn a couple of venues and have some fun.

daniel mason - 25/10/12 at 08:49 PM

thanks all.
ali,i have seen the orange car many times but never looked at rear axle. seen the horizontal front shocks but thats about it,

phelpsa - 26/10/12 at 10:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MsD
Whilst we are on the subject of classes, im thinking of doing a few next year-
What about a road registered 1.6 7esque car on road legal tyres with an aeroscreeen?
And any idea what competition id face?
Thanks, Mark.


If it's a homebuilt chassis then I think in theory you should end up in sports libre against Clubmans racers and group b rally cars. If it's a manufacturers chassis and 20 have been made then you can run in Roadgoing Specialist Production (in some places aeroscreen would be a problem), against Westfields, Caterhams, Ginettas etc

phelpsa - 26/10/12 at 10:33 AM

P.S. Read this:

http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_forms/bluebooks/12/317_328_Specific_Regulations_for_Sprints,_Hill_Climbs_and_Drag_Racing_(S).pdf

unijacko67 - 2/11/12 at 12:17 AM

What class would my road going reliant kitten be in, with honda engine. Cheers.

mackei23b - 2/11/12 at 08:44 AM

Hi there

Have you consider the Caterham Club Championship, I think you'd be in Class 7 for that?

Cheers

Ian

[Edited on 2/11/12 by mackei23b]

phelpsa - 2/11/12 at 09:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mackei23b
Hi there

Have you consider the Caterham Club Championship, I think you'd be in Class 7 for that?

Cheers

Ian

[Edited on 2/11/12 by mackei23b]


But that doesn't change what class/catagory you run in at the event (in case there's any confusion).

phelpsa - 2/11/12 at 09:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by unijacko67
What class would my road going reliant kitten be in, with honda engine. Cheers.


Read the regs!

mackei23b - 2/11/12 at 11:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
quote:
Originally posted by mackei23b
Hi there

Have you consider the Caterham Club Championship, I think you'd be in Class 7 for that?

Cheers

Ian

[Edited on 2/11/12 by mackei23b]


But that doesn't change what class/catagory you run in at the event (in case there's any confusion).


True, but if will inform you of what championships you could enter and what cars you'll be running against in the championship