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Removing balancers
carnut - 10/2/05 at 04:31 PM

Im going to remove the 2 balencers o my spare blackbird engine to remove a load of inertia. They weigh s**t loads and only a little if the weight looks to be eccentric.

Ive heard a few peope have done this with a bird engine but does anyone know how much difference it will make?

I know the engine is likely to be a bit more vibey but im confident that if I block up the oil gallerys to the balancers i should also get a bit of extra oil pressure which would help the blackbirds crank a bit.

Carnut


Jon Ison - 10/2/05 at 05:35 PM

i;m told it makes it rev like a 600 rather than a 1100, (faster pick up), most of the grass track lads do it, id'e love too myself but i have too run a standard engine. It also helps with oil feed like you say to #3 this is allways the one to go and it feeds the balancer as well as the big end.


carnut - 10/2/05 at 09:59 PM

Cheers John,

Looks lke im going to go ahead and do it.

If there anything wrong then ill just put them back in again.


carnut - 11/2/05 at 12:14 AM

How much difference does it make to acceleration?


Hellfire - 11/2/05 at 04:31 AM

Interesting...


Bob C - 11/2/05 at 10:18 AM

I'd expect it to make a considerable difference to the acceleration of the engine in neutral and a tiny amount to the acceleration of the car!
I did the sums for a lightened flywheel and got a few percent in 0-60 time for a normal car. A lanchester shaft will have very small moment of inertia compared to a flywheel.
Just compare the kinetic energy of the car at 60 to that of the flywheel at 6000revs.
Bob


Jon Ison - 11/2/05 at 11:12 AM

it does make then "rev up" quicker, but talking too the guys that have done it the main benifit is better oil flow to #3 rod as it is shared with a feed too the balancer, not forgetting a fair amount of "rotating weight" loss.


Rorty - 13/2/05 at 03:57 AM

I remove the balancers from ZZR1100 engines for better oil flow and to save a heap of weight. I weld the holes up in the case, so it's not possible to refit the balancer later, but you wouldn't really want to anyway.


carnut - 13/2/05 at 01:21 PM

Hi Rorty,

Do you notice any difference in acceleration or even engine breaking etc?


Rorty - 13/2/05 at 01:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by carnut
Hi Rorty,

Do you notice any difference in acceleration or even engine breaking etc?

I can't say that I have. I know in theory there is a difference, but in the real world, and certainly in a BEC, there's no noticible difference.