Does anyone happen to know whether a CBR600 fuel pump is the same as the Fireblade one, I reckon it might be but just wondered if anyone knows for sure.

ta,
Rich.

try get a number off it....I've got an 893 pump here I can check against.

Colin

Just out cof interest Colin, do you sell the pumps?? and if you do how much!

Rich.

Im pretty sure they are the same part, Im sure Ive heard people mention using ones off CBR600s before, amongst others (I think a lot of large capacity carbed engines use the same one, made by Mitsubishi).

Thanks Chris, I think they are too but I will get the number and check with the local bike shop just to be sure, easy enough just to ring them and ask I guess.

thanks,
Rich.

http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/default.asp
This may help?

Hi Rich,
I only have one blade pump at the moment, to go with the 893cc engine I have.

I have other pumps (kawasaki ZX6R I think) though which I'm sure would do fine.... It would be 20 quid plus post. Let me know if you want one..

Thanks Colin,

Will let you know.

Rich.

I can't see any numbers but the pump on my NTV looks like the one on the ZX9R engine from Colin. They look like they would be a direct swap.

Thanks Pete, I think I'll get hold of one from a CBR600 or ZX9 as it sounds like they are all the same and I will check the flow rate anyway.

thanks,
Rich.

most of the ones ive seen seem to be mitsubishi ones, but one engine had an oddly small pump - i think it was the standard faser one. Worked just fine though. the connectors were all the same too, for all of them!

Regarding the fuel pump, I got this one.

A huge fuel filter was included, which I think doubles as pressure regulator. The whole combination was yanked out os a Westfield.

Is this a good choice? Long ago, I think I remeber mention of the bike fuel pump being ideal. At the time, I was far from ready!

--Chris

[Edited on 13/2/05 by chrisf]

They were fitted to prime the float bowls to cure a starting problem which Diversions (early version same engine) suffer from according to my bike mechanic friend at the local shop.

Chris

What youve got there is a solid state pump and regulator. You need the regulator because the pump will otherwise provide too much pressure that will overcome the carbs, and it isnt pressure sensitive so will continue pumping regardless of what pressure the fuel in the line is. The bike pumps are pressure sensitive and only pump to a couple of PSI, once the fuel in the line reaches this pressure they start to slow down or stop, hence no need for a regulator.
The solid state pump / regulator method does work in most instances but some people have found that in order to get the pressure low enough for the bike carbs (which need a lower pressure than most car carbs) they have to really wind down the regulator, and doing this stifles the flow rate to an extent that there isnt enough fuel reaching the carbs at high RPM, making it lean out and not run properly.
In conclusion, for simplicity and ease of install Id go for a bike pump every time, but if you dont want to shell out any more cash then what you have there will probably work fine.

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Originally posted by chrisf
Regarding the fuel pump, I got this one.

A huge fuel filter was included, which I think doubles as pressure regulator. The whole combination was yanked out os a Westfield.

Is this a good choice? Long ago, I think I remeber mention of the bike fuel pump being ideal. At the time, I was far from ready!

--Chris

[Edited on 13/2/05 by chrisf]

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Thanks for the reply. So the bike pump is a plug and play bit with no worries? Seems worth the small bit of cash.

Do carbed motors need a fuel pump from a carbed motor or can the use one from an injected motor? Do the injected motors use high pressure?

--Thanks again, Chris

You can only use a carbed pump with carbs, they run at around 2-3psi rather than 40-60psi of injection pumps.
The blade pump just needs its feed wired up to the ignition so it pumps up as soon as the ignition comes on, but other than that it just pumps as and when required so is nice and simple and doesnt need adjusting etc.

Hi Chris,
What spec pump will I need?
Cheers,
Pat...

Any standard bike pump off a big capacity bike will do, as said above they are mostly one and the same pump used by the majority of the major manufacturers and don't cost much second hand

cheers

Chris