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Mark18 - 11/4/05 at 08:27 PM

I have an AutoCad .dwg file of a petrol tank I have drawn to sit in front of the engine - maybe someone might find it useful. It holds around 25 litres and fits a standard locost chassis. If you're thinking of using it, just be sure there's enough room for the steering rack UJ - mine is further up the column.

Pic of tank
Mark


DaveFJ - 12/4/05 at 08:39 AM

it begs the question - WHY ?


Mark18 - 12/4/05 at 10:35 AM

I won't be able to afford 2 cars, so I'll need some form of boot in the car.

Mark


DaveFJ - 12/4/05 at 10:55 AM

2 problems I see.

no airflow into engine bay and fuel tank next to engine - is that legal ?


ChrisGamlin - 12/4/05 at 11:51 AM

You can fit a tank in the back and still have reasonable storage space, especially if you're willing to accept a 25L limit which wont get you that far if you're using it as every day transport. Rather than have the tank at the back, maybe put in a wide shallow tank above the axle and have the section behind that panelled out - it would be sufficiently large to hold a couple of small weekend bags or a few bags of shopping. You've also got the passenger compartment to use of course.


Peteff - 12/4/05 at 11:55 AM

Fuel tank's on top of the engine on a bike, can't see the problem there. I still think there must be better solutions though, how about a roof rack . Seriously, fit a full roll cage and a locking top box type thing with removable brackets. Will you get your radiator hoses round a front tank?


ChrisGamlin - 12/4/05 at 12:12 PM

Another option which might be better is to put it on the top of the scuttle as Dax do I think


locoboy - 12/4/05 at 12:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
how about a roof rack . Seriously, fit a full roll cage and a locking top box type thing with removable brackets.


Nice low C of G idea there Pete, not to mention the frightening sound of fuel swashing about above your head!

Hey how about fitting a full roll cage and welding bungs on the ends and using the cage tubes as a fuel tank


ChrisGamlin - 12/4/05 at 12:48 PM

LOL, some people on here really do scare me sometimes


David Jenkins - 12/4/05 at 12:53 PM

Ever travelled in a light aircraft? In most case you're either sitting on, sitting under, or otherwise bl**dy close to many gallons of aviation fuel (it is usually close to the C of G).

Mind you, it's not to often that you get into a major collision in a light aircraft...

David


Mark18 - 12/4/05 at 12:56 PM

There's plenty of space for pipes around the side of the tank - it doesn't quite sit flush to the chassis rails, also the sides on the car are flush with the nosecone rather than the chassis, so there's even more room there. For the same reason I'd be surprised if airflow is a problem, but it's still a small concern.

As for the tank size, 25l is 5.5 gallons by my calculations which is as big as any locost tank I have seen? Maybe I'm wrong.

I will really need every ounce of space I can get - I play hockey in goals, so there's a lot of gear that I will be carting around on a regular basis for that.

Mark


alister667 - 12/4/05 at 01:49 PM

In Pete's defence I read it that he suggested using a roof rack for luggage not for the petrol tank.... I might have misread that though ;-)
Second, Mark, you are seriously hardcore to use a BEC in Ireland as your only motorised transport! The very best of luck to you.
I've racked up about 5k miles in the last 12 months, north and south of the border and I would highly recommend a second tin-top car.
Remember you can't leave Sevens in a car park like ordinary cars - not because they'll get stolen, but someone will come along (probably drunk) and sit in it (and probably pull lumps of fibreglass off on the way out) or a child will get up on the bonnet (cue cracking noises), or someone will 'test the rear suspension' by pushing down on unsupported fibreglass at the back.... So many stupid things can happen your pride and joy it's scary!
The roads (especially south of the border) aren't as good as they should be and you can be guarenteed a fairly 'involved' journey up any back road - and motorways are just no fun. In autumn the leaf debris turns the roads into a skating rink - and with a BEC I guarentee you the back end will step out when you least expect it - I expect most BEC owners here have had many 'moments' especially in the wet!
In the winter you have gritters and roadsalt to look forward to - as well as biting cold (the least of your problems to be honest if you have a good motorbike coat) and of course ice.
If I were you I'd get an extra couple of hundred quid, buy an old Corsa and get my main insurance policy to cover the driving of other cars - you might have to put your Luego or the Corsa in a family members name or something to get round it but I think it makes sense.
Out of interest where abouts are you based?

All the best

Ali


ChrisGamlin - 12/4/05 at 02:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by alister667
In Pete's defence I read it that he suggested using a roof rack for luggage not for the petrol tank.... I might have misread that though ;-)


Good point, I think you're right

Ive seen that before, there was a Caterham with a full cage and a roofbox down at Le Mans last year, probably some pics on blatchat somewhere.


locoboy - 12/4/05 at 02:55 PM

PMSL

I think i misread it too

I saw a westie on the way to Barmouth one year with a surfboard strapped onto the screen and roll bar with a tether from the point on the board to a front towing eye


looked quite cool as he blasted past me and off into the distance.


Peteff - 12/4/05 at 04:45 PM

Why would the fuel tank have removable brackets Col . I never actually thought of putting the fuel tank up there, it's a masterstroke, does away with the the fuel pump
This was what I was thinking of.


carnut - 12/4/05 at 04:58 PM

In the spirit of the great Chapman why not make your seats into fuel tanks with fuel behind and down each side if you.


Peteff - 12/4/05 at 05:02 PM

Integrate an ashtray into the filler cap as well. Don't blame me, Col started it.


locoboy - 12/4/05 at 05:20 PM

ok ok ok.............. i hold my hand up (with no smouldering cigarette in it either!)

Just didnt read it properly

Any anyway Pete you may want to make the fuel tank removable because it would be a pig to fill when its on the roof ,

lift it down, fill it, collar one of the petrol station workers into giving you a lift back up top with it .................




you could be onto a space saving idea there you know.


Mark18 - 12/4/05 at 07:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by alister667
In Pete's defence I read it that he suggested using a roof rack for luggage not for the petrol tank.... I might have misread that though ;-)
Second, Mark, you are seriously hardcore to use a BEC in Ireland as your only motorised transport! The very best of luck to you.
I've racked up about 5k miles in the last 12 months, north and south of the border and I would highly recommend a second tin-top car.
Remember you can't leave Sevens in a car park like ordinary cars - not because they'll get stolen, but someone will come along (probably drunk) and sit in it (and probably pull lumps of fibreglass off on the way out) or a child will get up on the bonnet (cue cracking noises), or someone will 'test the rear suspension' by pushing down on unsupported fibreglass at the back.... So many stupid things can happen your pride and joy it's scary!
The roads (especially south of the border) aren't as good as they should be and you can be guarenteed a fairly 'involved' journey up any back road - and motorways are just no fun. In autumn the leaf debris turns the roads into a skating rink - and with a BEC I guarentee you the back end will step out when you least expect it - I expect most BEC owners here have had many 'moments' especially in the wet!
In the winter you have gritters and roadsalt to look forward to - as well as biting cold (the least of your problems to be honest if you have a good motorbike coat) and of course ice.
If I were you I'd get an extra couple of hundred quid, buy an old Corsa and get my main insurance policy to cover the driving of other cars - you might have to put your Luego or the Corsa in a family members name or something to get round it but I think it makes sense.
Out of interest where abouts are you based?

All the best

Ali

Have to say I agree 100% and that's probably what I'll end up doing - I'm certainly not too happy about the prospect of leaving it in carparks etc. but I can't imagine it being much worse than a bike in other respects. One way to find out I suppose!

I guess there's no takers on the tank then - I thought it was a good idea - all the feedback is still appreciated - there's always something you overlook.

Oh yeah and I'm based in Kilkenny.

Mark