I have a personal reg no so need to keep away from a Q reg , Has anyone been through the SVA with a bike engine in and kept the Sierra reg? and how did you do it?

Providing you have the V5 from the donor car, getting a similar reg (ie same letter) is not a problem.

In some cases it is possible to retain the same plate from the donor but youd need to speak to your DVLA office about it.
For more info look here
Rgds

Rich


[Edited on 22/1/06 by RichieC]

You need 2 items from the donor to get its plate age, its been discussed before.

So the donor sierra has items that go towards the points i.e steering assembly/axles.

If you want the bikes reg number then Engine and Gearbox.


EDIT: Is the private plate age related? (Or should I say derived from a A-Y prefix?)

[Edited on 22/1/06 by Mr G]

Nicely put, Im of the same opinion.

I see the Q as an age neutral plate and would much rather have it than a G or similar age.

The only exception I guess is if you have a personal plate of the same year or earlier as your donor and you wish to keep it. Otherwise, you can now get a personalised Q plate.

Rgds

Rich

i'm going for a q plate for the above reasons exactly

You could always "transplant" a bike engine into the Sierra (according to DVLA).

Then it'll be classed as "original" (for the DVLA at least) and count towards the "original donor parts".

Or am I talking shite ?
Anyone ?

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Originally posted by RichieC
Nicely put, Im of the same opinion.

I see the Q as an age neutral plate and would much rather have it than a G or similar age.

The only exception I guess is if you have a personal plate of the same year or earlier as your donor and you wish to keep it. Otherwise, you can now get a personalised Q plate.

Rgds

Rich

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Thats odd, twas just the other week I was on a website which gave you a display to see how the personalised Q plate looked.

Rich

I have a Q plate for the reasons stated above and I'm entirely happy with it.

everyone knows about Q plates and emissions, but tom says in his first post that he has a private plate that he wants to fit. Hence he would need age related.

Some people just don't like Q plates. Guess it's just a personal thing.

I gotta "Q" and I'm proud of it.

All my car came from Sierra except engine/box. Examiner mentioned that I should have "put" engine in Sierra

ATB

Simon

sorry to disapoint you q platers but your missing a piece of info regarding mot emmisions the info you have is correct but you should also add to this amateur or kitcars built after august98 are subject to sva test and emmisions to the age of engine, your car will then be subject to this test at mot time have a look on your v5 log book it gives emmisions info on it. this info is given to the tester when registaring an mot on the new system. also yes i am a tester and yes my bec is subject to a cat test at mot time

if I buy a cheap new motorbike from ebay
e.g
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SALE-SALE-NEW-CHITUMA-HONGDOU-CTM-125-BIKE_W0QQitemZ4604703409QQcategoryZ424QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

register it then put this engine/gearbox ( two parts!) in I could have a 2006 reg plate? it cant be that simple can it ????

nope, to get a new plate is different to an age related plate, new ones need everything to be new with just one item allowed to be reconditioned to an as new standard. Cant be a hard and fast rule though as ive seen a few new plated cars with too many old components.

It would be age related the bike would be 2006 registered an used as the doner for the kit car! the fact it was registered as a bike for a week or two before being used does that make a differance? it only time ! I dont know !

good point there tom...

Can Q platers use 'TRADITIONAL NUMBER PLATES' the white charaters on black plate style?

As far as i can see they say 'Vehicles constructed before 1.1.73 may display traditional style "black and white" plates i.e. white, silver or grey characters on a black plate.'

anyone know?

No, standard white/yellow plates only - The rules are based on the date of registration.

David

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Originally posted by bigrich
kitcars built after august98 are subject to sva test and emmisions to the age of engine, your car will then be subject to this test at mot time have a look on your v5 log book it gives emmisions info on it. this info is given to the tester when registaring an mot on the new system.

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Sorry to drag up an old thread. But BigRich, you were saying that if a car is registered as a Q plate then it will have to adhere to the emission standards of the year that it was SVA'd?

So if the car is registered as age related before 98, it will not need a emissions check with CAT every MOT? Only at SVA depending on the year of the engine?

If the car is a Q plate does it always need the same SVA emissions check every year at MOT?

Any help'd be much appreciated,

Chris.

with the new computer mot you will have to pass what ever you did at sva time so cat test at sva means cat test at mot. this is regardless of number plate.

Really!?

So if I get the car through SVA with a 2000 spec R1 motor and a cat and then register it with an age related plate (around 89) I would still have to pass the same emissions test as the SVA at every MOT from that point onwards??

Chris.

My log book has no emissions info shown, so I doubt that unless its gonna change for new SVA's

ie they are gonna record the emissions info...

just because it isnt in the log book doesnt mean that it hasnt been recorded. the new system works by typing the number plate into the computer which tells the mot man what the pass levels are so it could go either way.

well, I was told when my car passed its sva that it would never need to pass that stringent an emissions test ever again as it would be subject to an age realated emissions test...

In my case 1990.. no cat...

If that is wrong info, and they are going to retrospectively change the emissions requirements, then surely someone would have said this on a kit car website by now????

Not that I care anyway, my car is in cyprus now, wont need an MOT for 4 years, and then will be subject to 1990 requirements as shown in my log book

Here's the requirements for MOT.

A - If your car has an AGE-RELATED plate he’ll assume that the engine is the same age as the plate and do the test accordingly. However, if your age-related plate refers to pre-Aug 1998 (‘S’ Prefix) you will continue to get the visible smoke test for the life of the vehicle REGARDLESS of the age of the engine. Remember though that this does NOT include PERSONALISED plates as in this case the vehicle will continue to be tested according to its age and NOT the vehicle registration number.

B - If your vehicle has a CURRENT/NEW plate or one that is after 1st August 1998, you will get a ‘basic’ emissions test, which is a basic check conducted to set limits carried out BEFORE the ‘CAT’ test. If you pass…..GREAT. If you fail though you’ll be subject to a full ‘by-the-book’ CAT test, plus remember that if you fail this you’ll also fail the MOT. Of course there are plenty of CURRENT/NEW registered kits running around with reconditioned engines so in this instance you will have to prove the age of the engine to the MOT tester. Ideally you should have a copy of your SVA MAC ‘pass’ certificate, which will be sufficient. Otherwise you will have to get a letter from the engines manufacturer stating clearly what year the engine was made.

C - Cars with a ‘Q’ plate are regarded as being of uncertain age so therefore will continue to be subject to the visible smoke test.

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Originally posted by cossey
with the new computer mot you will have to pass what ever you did at sva time so cat test at sva means cat test at mot. this is regardless of number plate.

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Originally posted by Hellfire
Here's the requirements for MOT.

A - If your car has an AGE-RELATED plate he’ll assume that the engine is the same age as the plate and do the test accordingly. However, if your age-related plate refers to pre-Aug 1998 (‘S’ Prefix) you will continue to get the visible smoke test for the life of the vehicle REGARDLESS of the age of the engine. Remember though that this does NOT include PERSONALISED plates as in this case the vehicle will continue to be tested according to its age and NOT the vehicle registration number.

B - If your vehicle has a CURRENT/NEW plate or one that is after 1st August 1998, you will get a ‘basic’ emissions test, which is a basic check conducted to set limits carried out BEFORE the ‘CAT’ test. If you pass…..GREAT. If you fail though you’ll be subject to a full ‘by-the-book’ CAT test, plus remember that if you fail this you’ll also fail the MOT. Of course there are plenty of CURRENT/NEW registered kits running around with reconditioned engines so in this instance you will have to prove the age of the engine to the MOT tester. Ideally you should have a copy of your SVA MAC ‘pass’ certificate, which will be sufficient. Otherwise you will have to get a letter from the engines manufacturer stating clearly what year the engine was made.

C - Cars with a ‘Q’ plate are regarded as being of uncertain age so therefore will continue to be subject to the visible smoke test.

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Thanks hellfire, that was my understanding